KM-25 Posted September 19, 2008 Share #1 Posted September 19, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is looking pretty fake to me and is going for an unlawful price. If you have bid on it, I would seriously consider retracting it ASAP! Ebay item: 280249378257 There is a thread on it at Range Finder Forum: This doesn't look right to me... - Rangefinderforum.com There were some B/P M3's in the early days, MIR has a good page on it: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...aint/index.htm But the shutter speed dial is what threw me off, way too early to be real. There is also a preview lever which is too early for that serial. Look at the Mir one, it is only 6 numbers off yet no preview lever or late shutter and is obviously real. The film door has the upper studs near the edges of the door in the Mir M3 while the ebay one has them closer to the center. The seller has a no return policy. I think this is as some one else has posted, a put together of scrap parts, criminal for how much it is going for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Hi KM-25, Take a look here Warning, potentially fake black paint M3 on ebay!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
johnastovall Posted September 19, 2008 Share #2 Posted September 19, 2008 Same seller has a KE-7 ( 280266280109) up and it to looks very faked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 19, 2008 Share #3 Posted September 19, 2008 Its a real M3, and it does have black paint so in that sense its genuine. Its just that its not an original factory paint job but was probably done very recently. What I don't understand is how can it be criminal to ask whatever price you want to - its up to the buyer to decide whether its worth the money or not. I could ask £50K for my standard M2. I doubt anyone would pay it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 20, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 20, 2008 I hope none is so STUPID to pay that obscene amount for a camera that, at least, ought to be very seriously inspected to be identified: besides the time scale you have correctly pointed (ought to have 1/5 - 1/10...) , there is also the frame selector lever (which officially was introduced at 785.801), and the film pressure plate looks metal...it was glass-made until 844.000...; let's give even a SMALL chance it was a late factory "update"... but the strongest chance it's a ROUGH fake (finishing and probably s/n). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted September 22, 2008 Share #5 Posted September 22, 2008 Its just that its not an original factory paint job but was probably done very recently. It can be done on special order. Just ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarape Posted September 22, 2008 Share #6 Posted September 22, 2008 Still, it's a nice looking camera. As a poster at RFF said, 750 bucks (I'd pay 900) but listed for 7.5k? damn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 22, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 22, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I never knew that a pot of black paint could be worth so much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitz_not_leica Posted September 23, 2008 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2008 Tonaya is an honest dealer, VERY trustworthy, IME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 23, 2008 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2008 Tonaya is an honest dealer, VERY trustworthy, IME. I trust you... but keep my idea that is too risky to afford such a price without having done a direct inspection of the camera... does he appliy a return policy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchs Posted September 23, 2008 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2008 I have bought some original factory parts from this seller in the past, to restore some cameras. I was told that she had bought a huge inventory of surplus parts from Ernst Leitz Canada some time ago. She was also selling not too long ago original black paint parts. Summing 1+1, I'd dare to say that the parts are original, the camera very probably not. A clear case in which the sum of the parts shouldn't have been equal to the total Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 23, 2008 Share #11 Posted September 23, 2008 I have bought some original factory parts from this seller in the past, to restore some cameras. I was told that she had bought a huge inventory of surplus parts from Ernst Leitz Canada some time ago. She was also selling not too long ago original black paint parts. Summing 1+1, I'd dare to say that the parts are original, the camera very probably not. A clear case in which the sum of the parts shouldn't have been equal to the total Well said... putting together a number of (original) parts and so obtaining a fantastically rare "original" Leica, is not a good reason to try to get a big amount of money for it... I'd even say it is not a so correct business... if a camera is RECONSTRUCTED from original parts, is better to declare it clearly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted September 26, 2008 Share #12 Posted September 26, 2008 and it sold for US$10,101 ... including the B/P 35 (M3) Summaron ! Paint looked too fresh, and the speed dial was wrong. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 27, 2008 Share #13 Posted September 27, 2008 Sold for 10K$ ? Compliments to the seller... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted September 27, 2008 Share #14 Posted September 27, 2008 Sold for 10K$ ? Compliments to the seller... But does she collect........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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