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Over at drp or whatever it was there is a rumour that Leica are considering rebanding Canons for their DSLR range ....that would really get the anti boys in a twist. It would be quite a episode watching the mental wriggle come gymnastics

 

Nothing Olympic there. A quick "they're made to Leica's specifications and therefore superior...my legally-blind grandmother can see the difference in 72dpi webshots" will do it.

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Here is a bit of reading , perhaps the last point is what may started the rumor .

 

"Canon gave an interesting interview in China this week (PCP)

 

We were kindly sent this English version (and notes)

 

A rough estimation via the press centre for the Beijing olympics showed that about 70% of news photographers are Canon users [Quite the same as the number reported by Canon Professional Network for Euro 08]

 

Canon has no plans to join the Micro 4/3 industry at the moment. Canon has different sized sensors already, and users have different systems. Most of them don't want to invest for another new system.

 

Canon thinks different sensors have their own characteristics, whether or not APS-C will be replaced completely depends on market demand, but Canon takes the upcoming decrease of Full Frame camera cost due to sensor cost dropping as a good sign, which makes FF more affordable.

The 50 Megapixels sensor is not ready to be used in cameras because other components are to be improved to fit it, for instance, larger sensor demands a larger body. The reason why Canon annouced this news is to prove her technological leadership is 10 years ahead of others. [that's an APS-H sensor in the original announcement BTW]

 

On the 1D merging issue, with today's CMOS technology, it is not easy to get "Good quality, high speed" at the same time. Yet Canon tech has been developing rapidly, once the cost is reasonable, we can solve this problem.

No words on 5D sucessor, saying that no such information available. But they have received feedbacks from Chinese dealers saying that people are waiting for a new 5D and 12MP will be enough already.

 

About Canon's lack of passion about things like HDMI.... These technologies are not Canon's core ones but developed by others instead, we will buy them and put them in our camera if we found it necessary. We often need to make decisions between different features, for example, there is a company which uses vari-angle LCD on its monitor, this sacrifies the size of the monitor, some may thing it is good, vice versa, and Canon has to pick the choice which most will appreciate, but not everyone will be satisfied.[this echoes what Chuck Westfall said during CES, with OLED, the display of SLRs will be a part of Canon's core technology, then we will see better monitors on them] Eye-controlled focus, we are not using it because of feedback from the market, but we haven't stop developing it,.

 

Canon has noticed market demand of a product with small body but large sensor size, but no development has been carried out yet, Canon focuses on how to combine convenience and quality.[With that said, it may imply that "a product with small body but large sensor size" can not provide a versatile enough focal length range] "

 

 

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is there an online link to that Peter?

of note, no wish to get into small systems, surrendering that to Panasonic

the persistent notion of cheap FF, IMO bs, as its 16-32x the cost of a 4/3 sensor

10 year lead on the competition, yeah right....

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Imagine the following fairy tale: Leica buys Sigma Corporation with the € 20 millions lending by Panasonic (see the latest financial report). Now Sigma builds already a digital camera very similar to a Canon camera with a Foveon sensor. Unsuccessfully.

With the magic red dot, the pumpkin Sigma becomes a Cindirella horse-drawn coach ..:-)

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Imagine the following fairy tale: Leica buys Sigma Corporation with the € 20 millions lending by Panasonic (see the latest financial report). Now Sigma builds already a digital camera very similar to a Canon camera with a Foveon sensor. Unsuccessfully.

With the magic red dot, the pumpkin Sigma becomes a Cindirella horse-drawn coach ..:-)

 

The Foveon sensor coupled with Leica lenses - might be interesting to see some results.

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http://www.imaginginsider.com/?p=80413

 

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{Published by ImagingInsider.com August 18th, 2008 in NewsStream

Imaging Insider received an e-mail Monday, August 18, 2008, in response to one of our posts that originated from the Leica User Forum where it was speculated that Leica was considering rebranding Canon DSLRs. Well, the e-mail we received stated, “I work for Leica USA. It’s true, it’s true, it’s true…… None of us at this office believed it at first, but trust me, it’s true.”

 

While we are currently unable to confirm the identity and reliability of the e-mail Imaging Insider continues to get more information on htis issue.}

 

 

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Well, its very interesting that on my visit to Solms the beginning of this month, when I mentioned I also used a 5D, the response was that Canon makes very good gear -- but there were some hostile words for the "yellow dot" - Nikon. So to me there is more affection for Canon in Solms, which is more consistent with the OP. But I do not quite understand what all this would mean. For example, could it mean they will build a 1ds mkIII with a Leica mount? Or Leica lenses with Canon mount? Or what?

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Well, its very interesting that on my visit to Solms the beginning of this month, when I mentioned I also used a 5D, the response was that Canon makes very good gear -- but there were some hostile words for the "yellow dot" - Nikon. So to me there is more affection for Canon in Solms, which is more consistent with the OP. But I do not quite understand what all this would mean. For example, could it mean they will build a 1ds mkIII with a Leica mount? Or Leica lenses with Canon mount? Or what?

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Well, its very interesting that on my visit to Solms the beginning of this month, when I mentioned I also used a 5D, the response was that Canon makes very good gear -- but there were some hostile words for the "yellow dot" - Nikon. So to me there is more affection for Canon in Solms, which is more consistent with the OP. But I do not quite understand what all this would mean. For example, could it mean they will build a 1ds mkIII with a Leica mount? Or Leica lenses with Canon mount? Or what?

... or it could mean no more than that the people you spoke to have had good experiences with Canon cameras in the past but not with Nikon.

... or it could equally be that they were responding to your comment about using a 5D. Why does it have to mean something?

 

If you visited the Ferrari factory and mentioned that you drive a Mercedes and someone said that Mercedes makes very good cars but there were hostile words for BMW would you jump to the conclusion that Ferrari is planning to build a body for a Mercedes engine? :rolleyes:

 

Pete.

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Well, its very interesting that on my visit to Solms the beginning of this month, when I mentioned I also used a 5D, the response was that Canon makes very good gear -- but there were some hostile words for the "yellow dot" - Nikon. So to me there is more affection for Canon in Solms, which is more consistent with the OP.

 

 

Interesting reaction, because I believe that in terms of company culture Nikon is seen by many, as more of a 'camera company' than Canon. The camera division within Canon is dwarfed by everything else they do. Also Canon's design philosophy (especially their ergonomics) is very much geared towards automation. 'You press the button, we do the rest', to borrow Kodak's original slogan. Nikon products, especially on the highend, are still very much driven by allowing total manual user control. While the cameras are heavily automated, their ergonomic design is still very much geared towards manual operation. In that vain their are on the same page as Leica.

 

On the other hand it may be historical.... after all it was the Nikon F that knocked Leica from the perch....

 

Also Nikon primarily being a camera maker, they may not be to receptive to teaming up with an old competitor.

(But they do sell bodies to FUJI. Not that they ever were a real threat to NIkon...)

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Well, its very interesting that on my visit to Solms the beginning of this month, when I mentioned I also used a 5D, the response was that Canon makes very good gear -- but there were some hostile words for the "yellow dot" - Nikon. So to me there is more affection for Canon in Solms, which is more consistent with the OP. But I do not quite understand what all this would mean. For example, could it mean they will build a 1ds mkIII with a Leica mount? Or Leica lenses with Canon mount? Or what?

 

Well, maybe with only 5000 DMRs in circulation, discontinued some time ago, without a replacement officially confirmed, Canon DSLRs account for a significant proportion of whatever residual interest remains in R lenses?

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Here is a bit of reading , perhaps the last point is what may started the rumor .

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Canon has noticed market demand of a product with small body but large sensor size, but no development has been carried out yet, Canon focuses on how to combine convenience and quality.[With that said, it may imply that "a product with small body but large sensor size" can not provide a versatile enough focal length range] "

 

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Hi Peter,

how could this statement possibly start a rumor about a Canon Leica cooperation?

This statement is about the public demand for a compact point and shoot camera with larger sensor. A p&s camera that deliveres an image quality comparable to DSLRS.

Regards,

 

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I WOULD buy a Canon with a Leica Mount, but I would keep the DMR. Leica would be smart to do this if they are able because they do not have the technical or financial resources to do so on their own. by doing this, Leica could concentrate on Lens Design and manufacture.

 

Canon is NOT Minolta, and it would not ruin Leica.

 

Just my Two Cents.

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The Foveon sensor coupled with Leica lenses - might be interesting to see some results.

 

Somebody once said that fusion power is probably 50 years away -- and that ever since it was first posited, it has been fifty years away.

 

When the Foveon was first posited, people suggested that it was probably a few years from the point where it could successfully compete with the other technologies; it still is. I suspect it always will be.

 

JC

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