kenneth Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share #21 Posted June 14, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Or alternatively I could by a second hand IIIF B/Dial + 50mm F2.8 for, as this example from Ffordes Photographic for £599.00 which would give me a 50mm 2.8 Elmar and a second body. What do you think? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55359-do-i-really-need-a-50mm-and-if-so-are-there-any-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=581425'>More sharing options...
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rosuna Posted June 15, 2008 Share #22 Posted June 15, 2008 Ah yes good idea, did you try one Ruben? Not an extensive test. It is smaller than the Summicron and it seems to be as good as the Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianv Posted June 15, 2008 Share #23 Posted June 15, 2008 The lens shown on the IIIf is a Summitar. A beautiful vintage lens, not as sharp as the Summicron and just as big when collapsed. It extends out further when in the taking position. Some day I'll have to pick up a 50mm F2.8 Elmar. I've got a 1947 coated 5cm F3.5 Elmar that is quite compact, and delivers a beautiful image. Also have a coated Summitar(~1950), several collapsible Summicrons, and a collapsible Nikkor 5cm F2. I made a collapsible I61L/D, but it's for the Contax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 15, 2008 Share #24 Posted June 15, 2008 Not an extensive test. It is smaller than the Summicron and it seems to be as good as the Summicron. Thank you Ruben. Looks like the bokeh of the 35/2.5 is smoother than that of the 35/2 asph. Any idea about that of the 50/2.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted June 15, 2008 Share #25 Posted June 15, 2008 It is difficult to say. I need to work with a lens for a period of time in order to know how it behaves... I think the Summicron 50mm wasn't a great "bokeh maker", isn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 15, 2008 Share #26 Posted June 15, 2008 ...I think the Summicron 50mm wasn't a great "bokeh maker", isn't? The current one i don't know but my copy from the seventies (# 11819) has the same kind of bokeh as the 35/2 IV or the 40/2 of same vintage i.e. quite smooth indeed. Here at f/2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share #27 Posted June 16, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you for all your input. I have decided to go for a 50mm Summicron rigid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted June 16, 2008 Share #28 Posted June 16, 2008 Excellent choice Kenneth! I find the infinity lock a bit annoying but the lens makes beautiful pictures, especially if you use B&W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianv Posted June 16, 2008 Share #29 Posted June 16, 2008 T1 Rigid Summicron Wide-Open: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianv Posted June 16, 2008 Share #30 Posted June 16, 2008 (Late) Collapsible Summicron, Wide-Open: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share #31 Posted June 18, 2008 Excellent choice Kenneth! I find the infinity lock a bit annoying but the lens makes beautiful pictures, especially if you use B&W. There is no infinity lock on the lens I bought. It is the latest incarnation of the of the 50mm Summicron as attached picture Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55359-do-i-really-need-a-50mm-and-if-so-are-there-any-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=584279'>More sharing options...
peter_n Posted June 18, 2008 Share #32 Posted June 18, 2008 Ah, there is a version of the lens that was made in the 50's/60's which goes by the name "rigid". The lens is optically identical to the Dual Range (DR) that was made at the same time. Beautiful lenses and I use the rigid. Yes your lens is rigid as distinct from collapsible but it is not a "rigid Summicron" if you follow me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 18, 2008 Share #33 Posted June 18, 2008 Yes and to make things even simpler there is also the '50 jahre Summicron' which is a current 'cron disguised in rigid Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55359-do-i-really-need-a-50mm-and-if-so-are-there-any-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=584765'>More sharing options...
biglouis Posted June 18, 2008 Share #34 Posted June 18, 2008 ....of course, you could always consider the CV 50/1.5 Nokton. Draws light like a magnet, wonderful bokeh for subject isolation.... and cheap as chips compared to the Leica offerings...... Brian, 'spylaw', has used one to great effect on his M7, I believe. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share #35 Posted June 18, 2008 ....of course, you could always consider the CV 50/1.5 Nokton. Draws light like a magnet, wonderful bokeh for subject isolation.... and cheap as chips compared to the Leica offerings...... Brian, 'spylaw', has used one to great effect on his M7, I believe. LouisB My reason for using Leica is for the quality of their optics. Although I bought a Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 heliar that was because I rarely use that focal length but 35mm and 50mm are different. They must be Leica lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted June 19, 2008 Share #36 Posted June 19, 2008 My reason for using Leica is for the quality of their optics. Although I bought a Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 heliar that was because I rarely use that focal length but 35mm and 50mm are different. They must be Leica lenses Kenneth I know what you mean but I was a real Leica-snob until I had to purchase a lens in a hurry to cover the absence of my 35-lux (which was kept in Solms for 3 months while they coded it). By accident I discovered an excellent 50mm lens.... in fact it was so good I sold my cron APO 75 as it was kinda redundant.... LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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