peter_n Posted October 5, 2006 Share #41 Posted October 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Agree with Ken above that the whole point of photography is the image. Seb have you compared high quality digital images with high quality analog ones? YMMV but I much prefer the look of film prints to digital prints, and would not go to a digital camera for that reason. What is the point of "convenience" if the image doesn't look real? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hamey Posted October 5, 2006 Share #42 Posted October 5, 2006 So would I, as an M7 user get an M8, the answer is NO. . In Australia, the M8 and the 28mm lens will sell for just under 10,000 $ Aus I paid 5,200 $ Aus for my M7 and 35mm f2 asph. 4,800 will buy me a lot of slide film. What I do want from Leica is a Film Scanner, I do have a Minolta 5400-2 and it's superb but I would be very happy to buy the Leica version. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 5, 2006 Share #43 Posted October 5, 2006 Ken, your scanner is in the mail, along with the deeds to The Coathanger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 5, 2006 Share #44 Posted October 5, 2006 In that case why don't you chuck in a bit of ex BHP scrapmetal as well Rob it can all go back to Pig Iron Bob's place down south Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 5, 2006 Share #45 Posted October 5, 2006 Once I get his M7 Imants, once the M7 arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 5, 2006 Share #46 Posted October 5, 2006 Hey there are about thirty seven coal ships parked up off the coast, want me to get you one cheap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbesz Posted October 7, 2006 Share #47 Posted October 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Apart from the obvious advantages and disadvantages of the M8 digital camera, the top of my list for what is missing from the film M camera, is the ability to change ISO on the fly, and take many more images without changing film, ..but I still love film. (I handled and took shots with the M8 at Photokina, ..lovely built machine) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted October 7, 2006 Share #48 Posted October 7, 2006 Get a scan done and buy a $100 PhotoShop Elements. Put the CD scan into the computer and see what can be done. You will be amazed. There are lots of on line tutorials or get a book. I recommend WWW. The Radiant Vista. Look there before you do anything. Google for others. Once you have a Photoshoped image, get a print by burning a cd, copy to a small zip drive or whatever they are called, and bring it to the local store. File transfer programs will save you the trip. Two Cup software makes a free one, File transfer explorer is a bit nicer for $35. Ritz Camera will give you theirs free, but you only tranfer to their stores with it. Kodak provides Easy Share. You can also scan film to get the file. Last step is your own printer. Stop at any stage of this process and you will be a happy camper. A digi cam of any kind avoids film and scanning. Commect the camera/memory card to the computer and tell it the name of the file where you want it to go. Done in 30 sec. Try out a cheap digi cam to start. The $250 Canon Power Shot 620 is a fun little camera. I send pics to grandma with it. They are fun, but a M8 will work like a real camera. Cheap digi cams have limitations. This is sort of like race cars. You want something newer and faster and better all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted October 7, 2006 Share #49 Posted October 7, 2006 You can visit the following thread ( http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/6694-how-many-megapixels-equivalent-film.html ) to see a comparison between film and digital. These are pictures submitted by Leica User Forum Members, and my own experience with both film and digital is pretty much what you will find here. In the end, it is a matter of choice depending on the look you are after. If you love grain, film will not let you down, but even there, you can always increase this in post processing using PS if you go digital. The choice is not so Black and White anymore :-). Cheers, Wilfredo+ Benitez-Rivera Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted October 7, 2006 Share #50 Posted October 7, 2006 Why an M8? (1) You want a new toy; (2) You need the fast turn around time of digital;(3) You want to learn something new; (4) You want to post pics on the computer or internet with more ease. Except for professionals, there's no absolute need to go digital. There are reasons pro and con for digital, just like film, but I can't help thinking that for many folks its just because they want a new toy or they are gadget type of people. There's nothing wrong with that, but its a step away from basing your needs on the requirements of the final product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted October 7, 2006 Share #51 Posted October 7, 2006 You can visit the following thread ( http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/6694-how-many-megapixels-equivalent-film.html ) to see a comparison between film and digital. These are pictures submitted by Leica User Forum Members, and my own experience with both film and digital is pretty much what you will find here. In the end, it is a matter of choice depending on the look you are after. If you love grain, film will not let you down, but even there, you can always increase this in post processing using PS if you go digital. The choice is not so Black and White anymore :-). Cheers, Wilfredo+ Benitez-Rivera Photography The problem with those camparisons is that they are viewed on a computer, which is not the natural medium for film. As I think you allude to, its really apples and oranges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted October 7, 2006 Share #52 Posted October 7, 2006 Apart from the obvious advantages and disadvantages of the M8 digital camera, the top of my list for what is missing from the film M camera,is the ability to change ISO on the fly, and take many more images without changing film, ..but I still love film. (I handled and took shots with the M8 at Photokina, ..lovely built machine) This is a good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazileous Posted October 7, 2006 Share #53 Posted October 7, 2006 7500-3500/9=444rolls developedREALA for me. Probably over a thousand rolls of APX, my time bulk loading and developing is cheap.I like the look of film. I don't absolutely need the convenience of digital. If it was important that I had to make the shot regardless of all else, I would probably be shooting autofocus programme mode. So an MP is really looking the money. Its so very easy to find yourself on the spirrel of upgrades these days, if you are happy snapping with a roll of film in any M snap on, the advantage of digital is many fold though. Never again pay for the unwanted pic, the out of focus pic or the wish I hadn't bothered pic. Have a camera around your neck that will take 200 shots not 36, never worry about having the correct emulsion in the can, Crop, size adjust and print the one fantastic shot of which you are proud, free up drawers of unrequired but to expensive to throw away photographs, have a unique screen saver every day, all this with an M Leica, forget sex, this is navarna. baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted October 8, 2006 Share #54 Posted October 8, 2006 Its so very easy to find yourself on the spirrel of upgrades these days, if you are happy snapping with a roll of film in any M snap on, the advantage of digital is many fold though. Never again pay for the unwanted pic, the out of focus pic or the wish I hadn't bothered pic. Have a camera around your neck that will take 200 shots not 36, never worry about having the correct emulsion in the can, Crop, size adjust and print the one fantastic shot of which you are proud, free up drawers of unrequired but to expensive to throw away photographs, have a unique screen saver every day, all this with an M Leica, forget sex, this is navarna. baz I would think the ability to change iso settings "mid-roll" would be a strong benefit of digital. There are both benefits and detriments to both digital and film. Digital really does have some strong advantages over film, but some of the advantages quoted are, in the practical world, paper thin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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