luigi bertolotti Posted May 11, 2008 Share #1 Posted May 11, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wel well... next week my eldest daughter reaches 14 !!! Lets' give her a chance ... Problem is : shall I teach her the importance of sparing film with grandfather 8-exposures ? Or throw her in the Point & Shoot Mood ? [ATTACH]86603[/ATTACH] Well... Lumix is already on board... I could keep it for me if decide to address her to the pleasures of MF... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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giordano Posted May 11, 2008 Share #2 Posted May 11, 2008 Wel well... next week my eldest daughter reaches 14 !!! Lets' give her a chance ...Problem is : shall I teach her the importance of sparing film with grandfather 8-exposures ? Or throw her in the Point & Shoot Mood? If you have a darkroom, start with B&W film, manual camera, and help her learn to make prints. Otherwise: a digital camera with no P&S (i.e. program+autofocus) mode ... M8, RD1, Hasselblad 500Cxxx with digital back;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow Posted May 11, 2008 Share #3 Posted May 11, 2008 I think a PS is much better, she'll have more fun and probably will learn more because of the instant feedback of the digital. Plus, she won't be getting funny looks from her classmates when she pulls out the grandpa's camera. Just a thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share #4 Posted May 11, 2008 I think a PS is much better, she'll have more fun and probably will learn more because of the instant feedback of the digital. Plus, she won't be getting funny looks from her classmates when she pulls out the grandpa's camera.Just a thought That's a problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted May 11, 2008 Share #5 Posted May 11, 2008 Some random thoughts. The teenage years are brutal. I'm still trying to recover 25 years later ;-) It depends on what your daughter wants out of photography. If she is passionate about the art above all else, then the best of tools is a great idea. If she is still undecided, then a tool that allows for a wider use makes sense, hence my recommendation in the title. Being able to share the results is one of the joys I enjoy in photography. The digital makes that immensely easier. It also will be more easily accepted by her most likely subjects, her friends. Then again, I remember a wise saying, "when given a choice, choose both." Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 11, 2008 Share #6 Posted May 11, 2008 Then again, I remember a wise saying, "when given a choice, choose both." Have to be a DMR then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steed Posted May 11, 2008 Share #7 Posted May 11, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) all wrong. Give her an ugly user SL. That is what I gave my daughter at 15, and she enjoyed it until she "fell in with a P&S crowd." But she did take some great pix and learn the principles. Good luck John W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted May 11, 2008 The dealer did show me the Lumix in pink... but the hue is terrible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 11, 2008 Share #9 Posted May 11, 2008 all wrong. Give her an ugly user SL. That is what I gave my daughter at 15, and she enjoyed it until she "fell in with a P&S crowd." But she did take some great pix and learn the principles.Good luck John W I gave my daughter an R4 with a 50 Summicron for her 18th Birthday. I had to buy it back off her after a year and swap it for a 350D... She does take very good photographs when she puts her mind to it, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted May 11, 2008 all wrong. Give her an ugly user SL. That is what I gave my daughter at 15, and she enjoyed it until she "fell in with a P&S crowd." But she did take some great pix and learn the principles.Good luck John W Can be a good advice... but my strategy is more articulated... 2-3 years of digital P&S... just to see if "she likes to take pics" (P&S lifecycle is in that range, I think... ) then, if "she likes" try a real approach... old SLR... or even my CL...or my Rolleiflex Twin... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share #11 Posted May 11, 2008 Lumix + Super Ikonta : 105 mm makes a supertele on it... [ATTACH]86658[/ATTACH] Silly and not so well-done amusement ... original taken with M8 and Summicron 50 DR... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Olof Posted May 11, 2008 Share #12 Posted May 11, 2008 Wel well... next week my eldest daughter reaches 14 !!! Lets' give her a chance ...Problem is : shall I teach her the importance of sparing film with grandfather 8-exposures ? Or throw her in the Point & Shoot Mood ? [ATTACH]86603[/ATTACH] Well... Lumix is already on board... I could keep it for me if decide to address her to the pleasures of MF... Go for a digital cam and a good software (Capture 4 etc.), if she can see the results she will have more fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_h Posted May 11, 2008 Share #13 Posted May 11, 2008 At the age of 15 I gave my daughter an elderly Minolta XG-M with a 50mm f2 lens. Whilst she has access to film P&S cameras, including one her grandfather gave her, Leica Ms, a "camera" in her mobile phone (never used) and a Nikon P&S digital she chooses to use "her" camera. At school this is the type of camera that she is required to use and her friends see it as "proper" camera. When I gave it to her I did so because I wanted her at least to grapple with shutter speeds and f stops before she succumbed to auto-everything. Interesting that after 18 months it's still her main camera. Regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted May 12, 2008 Share #14 Posted May 12, 2008 My oldest grandaughter is 9. She wants a laptop to replace her desktop! After raising two daughters and a son, i learned to give my daughters what they want. I will do the same for my grandaughter rather than the Digilux 3 or Nikon D60 I was thinking of! Everything is Digital to todays children and the world they live in is quite different than the world we grew up in. I use Leica M's and film Nikon's because I can afford the affectation but its not the way the world works today! -Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspbr Posted May 12, 2008 Share #15 Posted May 12, 2008 I would give the Zeiss Ikon. A marvelous camera, indeed! I gave to my niece (15 y.o.) my Contaflex Super. Of course the School colleagues laught a lot of her, with that big camera, heavy, with photometer and using FILM! But she didn't care about the laughts, forgot the digital camera and is now taking really good photos. And after I bought her a few XP2, some friends are, in fact, a little envy. Funny that happened somethign similar with myself. My father gave me a Voigtlander Bessa when I was 14, without rangefinder. I started to sell photos toke with that camera, and then buy more film (usually the Verichrome Pan). Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share #16 Posted May 13, 2008 I would give the Zeiss Ikon. A marvelous camera, indeed! I gave to my niece (15 y.o.) my Contaflex Super. Of course the School colleagues laught a lot of her, with that big camera, heavy, with photometer and using FILM! But she didn't care about the laughts, forgot the digital camera and is now taking really good photos. And after I bought her a few XP2, some friends are, in fact, a little envy. Funny that happened somethign similar with myself. My father gave me a Voigtlander Bessa when I was 14, without rangefinder. I started to sell photos toke with that camera, and then buy more film (usually the Verichrome Pan). Martin Verichrome !!! I'm moved... I remember when it arrived on the market... I seem to remember that it was 120 only, not 35mm... I surely have a number of prints and negs made with it... with the above 6x9 Zeiss or my beloved Rolleiflex 3,5 f... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspbr Posted May 14, 2008 Share #17 Posted May 14, 2008 Verichrome !!! I'm moved... I remember when it arrived on the market... I seem to remember that it was 120 only, not 35mm... I surely have a number of prints and negs made with it... with the above 6x9 Zeiss or my beloved Rolleiflex 3,5 f... Unhappy Verichrome was only in 120 (in older days there was too in 127 format, but I didn't get this... I'm only 30 y.o.!). In the last moments it came in 5 rolls package, a good and pratical idea. Used it a lot too with a Rolleiflex 3,5. Around 1997-98 Verichrome disapeared, at last here in Brazil, so I started using Plus-X (disapeared too) and Tri-X. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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