Mauribix Posted April 10, 2008 Share #21 Posted April 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, there are chrome (brass) versions of the Summicron 35mm IV. This may be a reason for some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Hi Mauribix, Take a look here 35 Summarit Bokeh (imgs). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Mauribix Posted April 10, 2008 Share #22 Posted April 10, 2008 lovely lens nice bokeh very crisp and contrasty images, I just ordered a 35mm f1.2 Nokton myself, I hope it performs half as well as the Summarit, this thread is giving me buyers remorse ! Don't worry Haya, the Nokton is one of the finest 35, just a little flare prone, but it has other great qualities (bokeh?) and I think you won't regret the choice. Then again, the summarit may be your next step, i can see nothing wrong in owning two different lenses in the same focal lenght (especially if it's the length in which you're more comfortable). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 10, 2008 Share #23 Posted April 10, 2008 Well, there are chrome (brass) versions of the Summicron 35mm IV. This may be a reason for some people. The reasons can be f/2 and contrast as well, Ruben. The Summarit looks more contrasty at first glance, which may pose problems with digital cameras. Blown highlights are easy to avoid with the 35/2 IV as well as other wides of same vintage like Summicron-C 40/2 or pre-asph Summilux 35/1.4 among others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozkar Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share #24 Posted April 10, 2008 The reasons can be f/2 and contrast as well, Ruben. The Summarit looks more contrasty at first glance, which may pose problems with digital cameras. Blown highlights are easy to avoid with the 35/2 IV as well as other wides of same vintage like Summicron-C 40/2 or pre-asph Summilux 35/1.4 among others. The 35 Summarit is not a high contrast lens. Contrast is somewhere between IV and ASPH. On an M8 it is perfect and blown highlights are not a problem. The IV may be an f2 lens but I rarely used mine below f2.8 due to veiling glare and low resolution. The Summarit is superb at f2.5 (really f2.4). And flare and bokeh are both better with the Summarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 10, 2008 Share #25 Posted April 10, 2008 I personnaly find the bokeh on the first 3 pictures quite unpleasant, harsh and distracting. I am not impressed...but it seems I am in a minority here. I agree...not pleasing at all. andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozkar Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share #26 Posted April 10, 2008 I agree...not pleasing at all. andy As I said earlier, I would like to see images from other f2 or so lenses showing bokeh with harshly lit backrounds. No response received to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 10, 2008 Share #27 Posted April 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I personnaly find the bokeh on the first 3 pictures quite unpleasant, harsh and distracting. I am not impressed...but it seems I am in a minority here. What exactly do you find harsh and distracting, I wonder? To some degree, bokeh is a subjective thing, but would like to be able to correlate subjective assessments to objective facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozkar Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share #28 Posted April 10, 2008 What exactly do you find harsh and distracting, I wonder? To some degree, bokeh is a subjective thing, but would like to be able to correlate subjective assessments to objective facts. I absolutely agree Michael. Bokeh is very subjective and I have asked for sample images in similar conditions to better understand what these posters consider to be "pleasant bokeh". This thread by Guy Mancuso is helpful because it shows the Summarit's bokeh relative to the "King of Bokeh" 35 Summicron IV: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/38846-summarit-series-35-50-90-ugly.html#post406747 I prefer 35 Summarit's bokeh to that of my Summicron ASPH and IV (now sold). It is not troubled by specular highlights and brightly lit fine detail, like foliage, in out of focus areas. And it is very consistent across a variety of lighting conditions. Looking forward to some images from Samir and Andym911. Ozkar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #29 Posted April 11, 2008 Looking forward to some images from Samir and Andym911. Ozkar Bokeh is of course very subjective. Here some Bokeh..Good, Bad, each to their own I say. regards andy Bright Bokeh.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534703'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #30 Posted April 11, 2008 Dark Bokeh Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534706'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #31 Posted April 11, 2008 Distant Bokeh Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534708'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #32 Posted April 11, 2008 Close Bokeh Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534710'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #33 Posted April 11, 2008 No Bokeh;) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534714'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted April 11, 2008 Share #34 Posted April 11, 2008 Big Bokeh Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=534856'>More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted April 11, 2008 Share #35 Posted April 11, 2008 Yesterday. M8 with the 35 Summilux. 1.4 @1/8000ths. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=535172'>More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted April 11, 2008 Share #36 Posted April 11, 2008 And again. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/50123-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs/?do=findComment&comment=535173'>More sharing options...
pelikan1931 Posted May 4, 2008 Share #37 Posted May 4, 2008 28 summicron bokeh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelikan1931 Posted May 4, 2008 Share #38 Posted May 4, 2008 28 summicron again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted May 4, 2008 Share #39 Posted May 4, 2008 'Pelikan' very nice OOF andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonersam Posted July 14, 2008 Share #40 Posted July 14, 2008 Bokeh is of course very subjective.Here some Bokeh..Good, Bad, each to their own I say. regards andy Bright Bokeh.. Hey Andy, the color rendition of the picture you posted is pretty good to me, bokeh-wise it is as well appealing too. Was it shot with one of the Summicrons? -Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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