norbertnl Posted September 10, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 10, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) On August 27, 1997, Gilberto Gil gave a concert at Irving Plaza, New York City, for which I had the luck of getting a free ticket via a friend of mine. The set featured material from the then new album 'Quantum', in which, as New York Times critic Jon Pareles put it, Gil "invoked African deities, sang about a barefoot crab vendor and, in the title song, considered quantum physics and the fragility of existence." The audience was a mixed, predominantly Latin American crowd, widely familiar with Gil's songs. For me it was a first encounter with his music, and an experience I haven't forgotten until now. Interestingly, before the concert started, rumor was spread amongst the audience that Fidel Castro had died, which appeared to be a canard only after the concert. Four days later, I first thought the news about the death of another celebrity was false as well, which unfortunately it wasn't. That evening I had my M6 and the Elmarit 90 in my backpack. Luckily I also had a few Neopan 1600s in my pockets;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Hi norbertnl, Take a look here Gilberto Gil @ Irving Plaza, August 27, 1997 (5 pics, ~750kb). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
vic vic Posted September 10, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 10, 2006 norbert - fantastic photographs, and it just works great as series as well. i will look for this new album in the itunes, sounds intresting with what u said (or ny times news). some pics may just a little leveling - it is more dificult with neopan16000 scans i know, but doesnt bother me too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted September 10, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 10, 2006 Norbert, Nice work, particularly that first shot. Are your ears still ringing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertnl Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted September 10, 2006 Hi Victor, Thanks for you comment! Sometimes I find it difficult to edit Neopan 1600 pics indeed. Probably I should have taken Emofin instead of ID 11 to get more even tones. I think the next thing I'll do is dive into the darkroom and try to squeeze some nice prints out of the APO Rodagon ;-) BTW, the album was released in 1997, but it should still be available in some way. Best, Norbert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertnl Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted September 10, 2006 William, Nice to hear from you! I got myself a CD after the concert, so my ears are ringing on request sometimes ;-) Best, Norbert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 10, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 10, 2006 hi again.. :-)) try rodinal... im serious, just one film and u will see. ya it is better to print it sure. also find the rating.. i normally use it on 3200 with rodinal. no worries - neopan can handle it. times, well it is tricky u know - i dont know what water u use etc, and most importantly, i dont know with what kind of lighting conditions u were dealing with each particular roll of film. generally rodinal at 3200, u should try (my suggestion only) at about 15 to start with. with relativly/slightly gentel then normal agitation. of course 20 degrees of water or adjust as needed. apo-rodagon is great of course :-))) make sure u handle your film well in the darkroom print if that is what u want to do (and at the size that u usually print or want to print those kind of images). do not examine it on the scanner. scanner and computer post-procesing can be misleading (even the imacons that have great dynamcics in tonality) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vic vic Posted September 10, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 10, 2006 stefan.. whats that??? r u speach-less becasue u liked the TERRIFFICCCC photos so much, or is there anything else that left u speachless :-))))))) common man - u r so predictable (u surprised me only once with personal attack on me otherwise very predictable). u want to make your point... it is already evident to many here on the forum (and if it wasnot, my thread gave u additional room for your "voice" for which im thankfull to u of course)... change your tactics and attitude mate, u will contribute far more... faaaaaaar mooooooooore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertnl Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted September 10, 2006 Victor, Try the first of Stefan's links. There are some samples of Gilberto Gil's music. Best, Norbert P.S.: À propos Rodinal - have you tried it with Delta 100pro? For me, that makes any digi file look like a fake Rolex compared to a real one ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm Posted September 10, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2006 hi again.. :-)) try rodinal... im serious, just one film and u will see. ya it is better to print it sure. also find the rating.. i normally use it on 3200 with rodinal. no worries - neopan can handle it. times, well it is tricky u know - i dont know what water u use etc, and most importantly, i dont know with what kind of lighting conditions u were dealing with each particular roll of film. generally rodinal at 3200, u should try (my suggestion only) at about 15 to start with. with relativly/slightly gentel then normal agitation. of course 20 degrees of water or adjust as needed. apo-rodagon is great of course :-))) make sure u handle your film well in the darkroom print if that is what u want to do (and at the size that u usually print or want to print those kind of images). do not examine it on the scanner. scanner and computer post-procesing can be misleading (even the imacons that have great dynamcics in tonality) I wouldn't personally expect that to be a fantastic combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertnl Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share #11 Posted September 10, 2006 Indeed, the combination of Rodinal and a fast film may generate pretty grainy photographs. There are some afficionados who love to combine it with Tri-X though. My personal preference is D76 or ID11 normally. With most 100 and 400 ASA I use it 1+1; Neopan 1600 works fine in stock. However, very critical concert photography may profit from Emofin. It softens the contrasts sufficiently, so you still get acceptable prints. Norbert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 10, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2006 Norbert - A wonderful series, all well composed, exposed and with excellent tonal range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 11, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 11, 2006 norbert and others who commented about the grain etc... just ry - one experimental at least - u may be surprised. i was really surprised seeing how well it handles it. ya i also love the id11 - but rodinal gives some powerfulll texture to the film (no, without that harsh grain u may have in mind). when printed, it is capable of creating varios textures on the paper both in blacks and whites. the trick here is to tune the exposure/development time combo, and then u will reduce the harshness - that is what i mean "neopan will handle it". indeed, i dis-liked hp5 in rodinal for alot of tome once. but after neopan attempt, i found the look on the hp5 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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