chris_livsey Posted March 25, 2009 Share #501 Posted March 25, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry. Well you're not a politician or banker then. They NEVER say the S word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cmdrfire Posted March 25, 2009 Share #502 Posted March 25, 2009 Well you're not a politician or banker then. They NEVER say the S word. Engineer To bring this vaguely back on topic, is anyone expecting to be in London for the planned protests next week? Whilst not particularly caring for the cause or the method, there could be some interesting pictures to be gained from it - but I imagine that our security apparatus will probably be being extra-vigilant during the days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 25, 2009 Share #503 Posted March 25, 2009 Engineer To bring this vaguely back on topic, is anyone expecting to be in London for the planned protests next week? Whilst not particularly caring for the cause or the method, there could be some interesting pictures to be gained from it - but I imagine that our security apparatus will probably be being extra-vigilant during the days. I'll be in London but probably steering clear of the protests thanks to the heightened police presence and tension and resulting likelihood of being hassled because I'll have my camera with me. It's a sad indictment of current police attitudes but my self-preservation instinct persuades me to be elsewhere. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted March 26, 2009 Share #504 Posted March 26, 2009 Petition to: Remove new restrictions on photography in public places. | Number10.gov.uk Nearly 1,000 now, you could make it more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted March 27, 2009 Share #505 Posted March 27, 2009 I hope you are all feeling better now since you got highly trained personnel now 60,000 civilian spies to get three-hour lesson in how to spot terrorists | Mail Online Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 27, 2009 Share #506 Posted March 27, 2009 Petition to: Remove new restrictions on photography in public places. | Number10.gov.uk Nearly 1,000 now, you could make it more. Thanks for the link, Chris. I've signed the petition and I urge UK members to do the same. It might not change anything but then again IT MIGHT! To paraphrase Edmund Burke: All that's needed for bad men to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 3, 2009 Share #507 Posted April 3, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is getting silly. New proposals requiring the production of photographic ID if you want to travel internally in the UK... Henry Porter: The government wants to know about your day trip to the Isle of Wight | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk I thought it was an April fool at first. Uncle Joe would be laughing into his Horlicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 3, 2009 Share #508 Posted April 3, 2009 I have already written to my MP and would urge everyone else to do so. This was after a report in The Daily Mail earlier in the week. TheyWorkForYou.com: Are your MPs and Peers working for you in the UK's Parliament? This is what I wrote: Dear Mr xxxxxx, Re the article linked to below, regarding the necessity to carry ID while travelling within the United Kingdom (for example between the mainland and Mull). I am not a Daily Mail reader, by the way, but the article was linked to me by a friend. I would be most grateful if you could explain to me both how this proposal is likely to prevent a terrorist attack (rather than just allow the perpetrators to be identified at a later date) and where these restrictions on the freedoms enjoyed in this country will end? I am extremely concerned that this constant and incessant erosion of our freedoms appears to have no one prepared to stand up and say that "Enough is enough". Are you prepared to do so, or are you happy that having every aspect of our lives pored over by unknown officials in unknown Government departments is an acceptable way to conduct ourselves in this country? We have CCTV cameras everywhere, we have 60,000 shopping mall security guards now in control of preventing us going about our lawful business, we have tacit restrictions on the freedom to take photographs in the street (when terrorists would do just as well use google earth or street view to see what they want to), we have the threat of Specs traffic cameras being rolled out all over the country making it easier for "you" to see where we are going and when. It's never ending. Now we have the need to use a passport to travel around the country. Please don't tell me that having an ID card will solve all these issues. Clearly, it won't, and is absolutely un-necessary intrusion into our lives in any case, especially given the authorities' woeful stewardship of the data that they collect already. I look forward to hearing from you, especially if you are prepared to stand up for the rights of your constituents against this ridiculous proposal. Yours... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 3, 2009 Share #509 Posted April 3, 2009 I think we should have to show photo ID to go between the living room and the kitchen. (Who knows what we might be up to.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 3, 2009 Share #510 Posted April 3, 2009 BTW, I am due to meet the Home Secretary in a few weeks time. Anything anyone would like me to ask her (or him) when I do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 3, 2009 Share #511 Posted April 3, 2009 Good letter, Andy. Do you have any objection to our 'lifting' parts of it to include in letters of our own? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 3, 2009 Share #512 Posted April 3, 2009 BTW, I am due to meet the Home Secretary in a few weeks time. Anything anyone would like me to ask her (or him) when I do? Heh heh heh, this is soooo tempting ... but I must refrain from being rude. You might like to ask her (or him) to show you some ID to prove that she is who she says is. And to briefly see how it feels for the rest of us ... Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 3, 2009 Share #513 Posted April 3, 2009 Good letter, Andy. Do you have any objection to our 'lifting' parts of it to include in letters of our own? Pete. Not at all. Fee to the usual address, please. But don't tell the tax man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petewayne Posted April 17, 2009 Share #514 Posted April 17, 2009 One more indictment of this country that used to be a "free and democratic society":( Police delete London tourists' photos 'to prevent terrorism' | UK news | guardian.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted April 17, 2009 Share #515 Posted April 17, 2009 I rather thought this extract contained the nub of the issue. "I will be raising it with the commissioner. I have already written to him about the police taking away cameras and stopping people taking photographs and made the point that if it was not for people taking photos, we would not know about the death of Ian Tomlinson or the woman who was hit by a police officer." Quite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraikon Posted April 21, 2009 Share #516 Posted April 21, 2009 Here the continental view: An austrian tourist was arrested by police and forced to delete his photos because he photographed a a public bus. (obv. a routemaster which is in Germany and Austria like a synonym for the "London Bus" ) heise online - 19.04.09 - Londoner Polizisten zwingen Touristen zum Löschen von Bus-Fotos Letters: Police, protest and the surveillance society | Politics | The Guardian ...I understand the need for some sensitivity in an era of terrorism, but isn't it naive to think terrorism can be prevented by terrorising tourists?Klaus Matzka Vienna, Austria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted April 21, 2009 Share #517 Posted April 21, 2009 BTW, I am due to meet the Home Secretary in a few weeks time. At one of her many houses that we pay for? Or perhaps not a her by then!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 21, 2009 Share #518 Posted April 21, 2009 BTW, I am due to meet the Home Secretary in a few weeks time. Anything anyone would like me to ask her (or him) when I do? Why are the Police allowed to disguise themselves or refuse to provide an ID number when asked for? As in the G20 incidents, given that it is now a criminal offence to photograph the police, how can the public protect themselves from criminal acts perpetuated by individual police officers, especially where they are cannot be identified otherwise (see above). What safeguards are in place to protect the public from the potential damage of being arrested under the guise of the terrorism act for 'offences' which are neither illegal or connected with terrorism? Where a policeman may have chosen to arrest someone - whether justified or not - in the past they may have done so for obstruction or breach of the peace, but will now use the terrorism act, i.e. for photographers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 1, 2009 Share #519 Posted May 1, 2009 She didn't show. She had some Gurkhas to stitch up instead, which is clearly much more important... Anyway... Would have missed this if it weren't for ther BJP twitter feed. British Journal of Photography - Home Secretary denies photography limitations I have been writing to my MP for a while now. Nice to see that he's actually asked JS questions about photographers' rights in Parliament. I will email him to thank him this weekend. However, "More work needs to be done" What does that mean, I wonder....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 1, 2009 Share #520 Posted May 1, 2009 However, "More work needs to be done" What does that mean, I wonder....? Probably something akin to a national register for photographers, akin to sex offenders, so that the police can quickly run a check on you when they stop you for 'suspicious photography' and keep a log of where you were, what you were photographing etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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