Did you have problems with your Digilux 3 ?

[Telecentric]

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Love the D3 too:D . Have the 14/50 2.8 ´´standard´´ lens and the OLY FL/36.

By the way, love your pictures!!!!

 

Ditto on both points great camera and great pictures.

 

I have just taken delivery of my second Digilux 3 which I acquired used in mint condition at a very advantages price as a second body for my mixed collection of Panasonic-Leica and Olympus lenses (8mm,11-22mm, 25mm, 14-50mm, 14-150mm, 70-300mm).

 

My first one I have had over a year and use it as my main camera and have had no issues with it at all. It is the classical handling, excellent colours, tonality and picture quality (at low ISOs) that keeps me with the Digilux 3 and will do so for some time to come. That and I love the 4:3 aspect ratio of the images - reminds me of my old 6x4.5 120 roll film days!

 

The mega-OIS in the 14-50mm and 14-150mm lenses works exceptionally well too.

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[adi sudarsono]

The L1 is my 3rd Panasonic camera. The first one was the LC-1 which I bought in Singapore. Very hard camera to buy and even if the garanty is world-wide, the Indonesian Panasonic company doesn't honour it. So bye-bye to it after the sensor failed. Very nice camera though.

 

My second camera was the LX-2. This is my pocket digital camera. I think it is the best (sorry G9, GRD and SD-1).

 

This is actually my second 14-50 lens, the first one I bought second handed without the body and stolen not long after. To avoid the hassle I bought a new one (buy the lens, the L-1 body as the bonus ha ha ha). Now it seems the RAW files from my L1 cannot be opened by Photoshop CS2 when it is ISO 800 (I don't know about ISO 1600). It seems a common problem with the L-1 but I would really like it to be solved. I'm not talking about a few frames but ALL photos at ISO 800. The JPEGs are OK but I want RAW. It may be a problem with photoshop or the camera but from reading other treads, I think it is the camera.

 

If this is not resolved, I guess I'll have to go to Olympus, maybe an E3. But I really want to stay Panasonic / Leica. BTW, I have ordered the 25 mm but after this bad history, I won't be buying anymore Panasonic cameras.

 

OOT : I hope the R10 will perform better than the D1 (noise), D2 (sensor), M8 (IR), L1 (RAW). Or else.

[Telecentric]

Now it seems the RAW files from my L1 cannot be opened by Photoshop CS2 when it is ISO 800 (I don't know about ISO 1600). It seems a common problem with the L-1 but I would really like it to be solved. I'm not talking about a few frames but ALL photos at ISO 800. The JPEGs are OK but I want RAW. It may be a problem with photoshop or the camera but from reading other treads, I think it is the camera.

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I understand your frustration, as I too suffered this problem.

 

This where you start to discover that the L1 and Digilux 3 are not exactly the same. You don't get this issue with the Digilux 3 as it uses the Adobe DNG raw format, but the L1 uses a Panasonic proprietary raw format, which is why they supply Silkypix as their raw conversion tool, I guess.

 

My wife owns an L1 and I use a Digilux 3 though I often post process the raw images out of both cameras. I am pleased to say that the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw, that I use with CS3, will happily process both raw formats. I do not know if this version of Camera Raw is available to CS2 - but if it does then problem solved.

 

In the meantime you can still do the raw conversion out of your L1 in Silkypix and then swap to CS2 for the rest of your processing needs. It adds a bit to the workflow but this is what I used to do myself before I got CS3 and it worked just fine.

 

Hope this helps.

[dugby]

Now it seems the RAW files from my L1 cannot be opened by Photoshop CS2 when it is ISO 800 (I don't know about ISO 1600). It seems a common problem with the L-1 but I would really like it to be solved. I'm not talking about a few frames but ALL photos at ISO 800. The JPEGs are OK but I want RAW. It may be a problem with photoshop or the camera but from reading other treads, I think it is the camera.

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I understand your frustration, as I too suffered this problem.

 

This where you start to discover that the L1 and Digilux 3 are not exactly the same. You don't get this issue with the Digilux 3 as it uses the Adobe DNG raw format, but the L1 uses a Panasonic proprietary raw format, which is why they supply Silkypix as their raw conversion tool, I guess.

 

My wife owns an L1 and I use a Digilux 3 though I often post process the raw images out of both cameras. I am pleased to say that the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw, that I use with CS3, will happily process both raw formats. I do not know if this version of Camera Raw is available to CS2 - but if it does then problem solved.

 

In the meantime you can still do the raw conversion out of your L1 in Silkypix and then swap to CS2 for the rest of your processing needs. It adds a bit to the workflow but this is what I used to do myself before I got CS3 and it worked just fine.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Actually both the D3 and the L1 have identical RAW settings, you can select between S/RGB or Adobe/RGB on the L1 and D3 menus under <Custom> - display 3/4 in the <Color Space> option

 

The choices are identical for the D3 and L1. This is also documented in both D3 and L1 User Guides.

Neither manuals refer to Adobe DNG.

 

Here's a really interesting explanation of the differences between S/RGB and Adobe/RGB

<http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/adobe-rgb.htm>

[Telecentric]

 

Actually both the D3 and the L1 have identical RAW settings, you can select between S/RGB or Adobe/RGB on the L1 and D3 menus under <Custom> - display 3/4 in the <Color Space> option

 

The choices are identical for the D3 and L1. This is also documented in both D3 and L1 User Guides.

Neither manuals refer to Adobe DNG.

 

Here's a really interesting explanation of the differences between S/RGB and Adobe/RGB

<http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/adobe-rgb.htm>

 

Indeed you are right in that both the L1 and the D3 support the same colour space settings i.e. sRGB and Adobe RGB.

 

However that is not the same thing as the raw format that the two cameras record the resulting image in. The two raw formats are different. I made the assumption that the Leica one was DNG compatible (as per their other digital technology e.g. the M8 is) but maybe it isn't - not-with-standing that Leica and Panasonic each use a different raw format for their respective cameras.

 

Anyone out there that can clarify whether or not the Leica raw format is DNG compatible or not please?

[ASpes]

I haven't seen so far a thread about problems with the Digilux 3.

Is this a bullet proof device... or "they didn't sell so many of them" ?

 

I actually have an L1 and also a D/3, as I opted out of a couple Digilux 2 that Leica seemed unable to ... clean. Sounds funny but that's how it is, anyway that's another story.

First D/3 they sent me had some problem with the lens, so they swapped it for another one and since then everything had been working perfectly.

As far as I know very few people complain about this camera, the only problem I read about it in some forum, has been the lens "barrel wobbling".

 

I'm pretty glad of its results, it has become my all-around camera, lens is oustanding, and image noise at higher ISO is really not an issue, it's fairly easy to work around it. I just miss a bit an additional grip with longer lenses, so I fall back to my E-1 with them.

 

Just my 2 (euro)cent of course.

[cboudier]

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Now it seems the RAW files from my L1 cannot be opened by Photoshop CS2 when it is ISO 800 (I don't know about ISO 1600). It seems a common problem with the L-1 but I would really like it to be solved. I'm not talking about a few frames but ALL photos at ISO 800. The JPEGs are OK but I want RAW. It may be a problem with photoshop or the camera but from reading other treads, I think it is the camera.

 

Did you try with another memory card ?

I ask this because I've had a similar problem at iso 800 & 1600, but it appeared to be a memory card issue !

I know it sounds weird... but it doesn't happened with an other SD card.

[adi sudarsono]

Ah you are right. At the begining, high ISO RAW was not an issue, then in the middle of a shot the card door was accidently opened. I don't know if this caused it, but after that (if I REMEMBER correctly) no ISO 800 RAW can be read. It used a 2 GB Sandisk Extreme 3 that now lives happily in my LX2. The LX2 is the only camera I have that uses s-RGB.

 

Well anyway, as much as I like the L1, I need the reliability. To me, it is like the Pentagon buying an airplane without the seats. Anyway there are so many other offerings out there. So "downgrading" to the E3 I go. I'll have to stay in manual mode but at least I know if I got the shot or not. I hope no one takes offence in my decision as I am the most disappointed person and I'm keeping the 14-50 mm and 25 mm (until they break anyway).

 

BTW, I also have a comment on the color yellow. All other colors come out so perfectly but yellow always needs post processing. I think all cameras have an erratic color or two (or all colors for some cameras) so its no big deal but I thought someone would want to know before buying. And I need to say again, all other colors come out great, including orange, purple and white.

[rogera]

I bought my Digilux 3 in November of 2006 and I must be honest and say that at first, I found it sluggish in comparison to my Canon 30d, 5d and MarkII 1ds. However after numerous "bad" shot (my own fault of course), I started really working the camera in manual and I find it wonderful. Full rich colors, sharp images and i almost never have to clean up the white balance in DXO ver. 5

[fschubert]

I bought my Digilux 3 in November of 2006 and I must be honest and say that at first, I found it sluggish in comparison to my Canon 30d, 5d and MarkII 1ds. However after numerous "bad" shot (my own fault of course), I started really working the camera in manual and I find it wonderful. Full rich colors, sharp images and i almost never have to clean up the white balance in DXO ver. 5

 

I am curious to know whether you shoot raw or jpeg to get the image quality you like with

your Digilux 3. Since you also own Canon 30D and 5D, how does its image quality compare to those from them?

 

Thanks,