Guest stnami Posted February 29, 2008 Share #21 Posted February 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) If the painters aren't switching to video cameras, why should we? many are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest darkstar2004 Posted February 29, 2008 Share #22 Posted February 29, 2008 Before much longer, all still cameras will be worthless and will be cast into the sea - just like all view cameras have been cast into the sea. With the advent of high resolution video cameras that can produce stills, the banal retentive masses will continue unabated in their relentless march toward photographic mediocrity. Whatever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted February 29, 2008 Share #23 Posted February 29, 2008 male sphericals? I'm going to carry on taking stills. I think they are better. That's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted March 1, 2008 Share #24 Posted March 1, 2008 As someone who began by shooting stills professionally, then moved into motion pictures (both fiction and documentary), and is now moving back towards concentrating on still images I can say that the mindset is nearly entirely different. While I can see how it would be tempting to extract still frames from motion picture sequences, for most events you simply approach the scene differently. While each has its strengths, what makes a good motion sequence (even one which you're going to frame grab later) isn't the same thing as a good still image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted March 1, 2008 Share #25 Posted March 1, 2008 I thought for sure that some mainstream Wildlife cinematographers have sold or turned some of the frames for publication or sale - not many I don't think,,,,,,,,,,. Either way, the new Leica camera owners have started Leica Cinema. it may be for lenses, but you never know. I think that the days of 'traditional designs' of SLR digital are numbered - the time seems to be close for someone to design a new type of camera. But maybe I'm way off. Still, I would rather have the ability to at least turn off a rapid or sequence/motion system in a camera and still record stills, like some digital cameras of today which can record short (very) movies. I do like the idea of a switchable, multi-aspect ratio framing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 1, 2008 Share #26 Posted March 1, 2008 As someone who began by shooting stills professionally, then moved into motion pictures (both fiction and documentary), and is now moving back towards concentrating on still images I can say that the mindset is nearly entirely different. While I can see how it would be tempting to extract still frames from motion picture sequences, for most events you simply approach the scene differently. While each has its strengths, what makes a good motion sequence (even one which you're going to frame grab later) isn't the same thing as a good still image. Hi Mat, my 'career' went the same route, and I fully agree. Shooting a documentairy or a photo-essay are two differet things. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Belasario Posted March 1, 2008 Share #27 Posted March 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was quite amazed by this post but looked into it further, and yes I think with 5 years or so stills photography will be out ... except of course for the loving hobbyists. I don't tend to keep up with latest and greatest but I should perhaps start looking into this more for this has totrally passed me by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted March 1, 2008 Share #28 Posted March 1, 2008 Once again you are implying that only a m8 is discrete, which is a narrow perspective and this translates into your scepticism about the cine/still combination. Not at all. I was only suggesting that the M8 is more discrete than many other cameras, not that is the only discrete camera. Certainly, nothing is more discrete than a small point & shoot, if that's all one is after. I'm sure the size and weight of video cameras will reduce considerably to the point where these are no longer considerations. My hesitation and skepticism have more to do with the technology than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 1, 2008 Share #29 Posted March 1, 2008 Yea Robert have another look into the video/still game, with the new technologies it has changed the goalposts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 1, 2008 Share #30 Posted March 1, 2008 Shooting a documentairy or a photo-essay are two different things. ...sure ....... but with a revised approach coupled with what new technologies have to offer there is a whole new playground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Belasario Posted March 1, 2008 Share #31 Posted March 1, 2008 I know not much about photograhy, but I have seen some things on the internet where they have a (don't know how to call it) quick frame to frame exposure, slower than normal video, but faster than a presentation of a group od photos .... you know what I mean Stnami? It's like a very slow video you actually see the frames bit by bit..... This reall looks intersting to me and I would love to get into this a bit deeper, but I haven't a clue what this actually is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 1, 2008 Share #32 Posted March 1, 2008 There are a heap of PP tricks using Premier and Final Cut Pro ( I am still a novice there) but I have a video/slide/fiilm project on the way.........should be completed in about 3-4 months I hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Belasario Posted March 2, 2008 Share #33 Posted March 2, 2008 You mean that this takes such a long time, or that you don't have the time to compelte it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 2, 2008 Share #34 Posted March 2, 2008 Yea, I have to do other stuff as well, but by the time one shoots everything, edit, PP work. re-shoots, re-edits and edits again. Then restructure it all with more editing,shootin and PP work in order to make something worthwhile viewing for about 5 minutes time will go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Belasario Posted March 2, 2008 Share #35 Posted March 2, 2008 Stnami, do you have any links to sites where I can see the technique? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 2, 2008 Share #36 Posted March 2, 2008 This is easy to do in iMovie. As Imants has said, it's collecting all the images that you will need (12 / second?) that's the time consuming bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Edwards Posted March 2, 2008 Share #37 Posted March 2, 2008 ...imho, this is nothing more than the tech-led trend to digitize everything in an evidentiary approach to life...witness the decline of the book-reading population in favor of the tv/video/cable watching population...as in the case of books which allows one to draw from the depths of personal imagination to form a picture of reality, so too a still photograph...at least for a certain segment of the population... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 2, 2008 Share #38 Posted March 2, 2008 iMovie.8 is pretty crap they restructured the whole application, iMovie.6 is passable but it is all at the cut and paste level. Apple are slowly downgrading their freebies,so one has to buy stuff like Final Cut Express 4 or if you are on PC try Vegas. The new Premier/After Effects is probably the best there is available, but it by no means cheap. Sorry I have no links, I am basically ideas committed( Visual Arts) and just learn what I have to in order to produce my work. This forum is OK Canon HV20 / HV30 User Forum - Powered by vBulletin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Belasario Posted March 3, 2008 Share #39 Posted March 3, 2008 Thanks for the info ... Using 12 frames/second this implies some 2000 images for a three minute "strectch" and this is just the basis.... What image format and size is most genrally used here, jpeg's or is another format more desirable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 3, 2008 Share #40 Posted March 3, 2008 You are better off joining the forum there, Canon HV20 / HV30 User Forum - Powered by vBulletin ,,,,,,,,, it doesn't matter if you haven't that particular cam......................... or contact this lady Eugenia, she is upfront and knows her stuff well Eugenia’s Rants and Thoughts Filmmaking Have fun reading her stuff:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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