Display tonality vs Lightroom output

[Dsauro]

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I know this is a bizarre and nuanced observation and request….but here goes….

After I capture an image on my M11M, the display in the camera  has a wonderful (and somewhat warm) tonality.   I’d like to say it is soft!  However, after downloading the mage to LR, the output seems much more neutral and perhaps a bit cold.   Is it me …. And my aging eyes?  Has anyone played with matching the LR output to the camera display?   I much prefer what Leica provides on playback.   
 

Has anyone noticed the same?

[frame-it]

7 hours ago, Dsauro said:

After I capture an image on my M11M, the display in the camera  has a wonderful (and somewhat warm) tonality.   I’d like to say it is soft!  However, after downloading the mage to LR, the output seems much more neutral and perhaps a bit cold.   Is it me …. And my aging eyes?  Has anyone played with matching the LR output to the camera display?   I much prefer what Leica provides on playback.   
 

use this guide to adjust your computer monitor, tablet and phone screens, and then check the printer if u actually print so see all the problems arising from this exercise...

https://mixinglight.com/color-grading-tutorials/calibrating-to-match-a-quick-guide-to-perceptually-matching-two-monitors/

[evikne]

Do you shoot in RAW (DNG) or JPG? What you see on the camera display is just a JPG preview. The image you import into LR will always be different from what you see on the camera. I don't know if M11M has camera-matching profiles available in LR. If so, you can get pretty close to what you see on the camera, but the image will almost always need some adjustments anyway to become what you want. 

[Stuart Richardson]

I think this probably the native screen color temp. A lot of computers have the displays set by default to 6500K or even bluer. Printing tends to work best closer to 5000 or 5500K. Apple allows you to change this in their laptops, and Eizo in their monitor software. Not sure about more basic displays, but it should be somewhere in the display settings that you can adjust it.  Since this is monochrome data, the color tone of the black and white is going to be dependent on the screen white more than anything else. It might also say D50, D55 or D65 as the display standard. I imagine the display in the M11M is probably just warmer than the OP's monitor. At least unless something else wrong is going on in color management. It probably will always look a bit different though. The camera display is usually not reference grade, it is just generating an image based on a embedded jpeg as evikne said above. 

Edited yesterday at 11:15 AM by Stuart Richardson

[DadDadDaddyo]

This serves as a reminder of things to keep in mind when folks post on forums. The first question I always think is... "What are they viewing it on?"

Take the variability and abundance of loosely fixed points that are not nailed down in just one person's observations...

Then increase that, to the power of (not X (in other words not 'times') the number of people weighing in with their own observations based on similarly uncalibrated viewing circumstances and the result will be....

...almost complete assurance that nobody will have any idea what anybody else is seeing, nor what they're basing their observations upon.

Then add to that the unconscious aspect of cork sniffing descriptors ("I find the rendering a bit pedestrian for my tastes, lacking the effervescent turmoil of the other...") and you have a perfectly constructed self-parody.

And yet the question remains: does this otter skin strap clash with my mohair photographer's vest???

[marchyman]

Another thing to check: go into the Lr develop module and select different profiles. You might find you like other than the default as a starting point for your edits.  

[Jeff S]

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Then there are prints.  Then there is display lighting.  The whole chain from camera to final display can involve myriad variables, requiring a disciplined workflow for predictable and reliable results.

[250swb]

As a quick guide cross check the image on the PC with the same image on say an iPad, if they look the same the PC screen is most likely correct. Judging an image on the camera's LCD is artificial not only because the JPEG is using an embedded colour profile but because the image is 'condensed' and this will make it look like it has more colour and tonal contrast.

If the 'style' of the JPEG is what you prefer in the final image (derived from the .dng file) then adjust it in post processing, it's called 'having an opinion' and you are free to disagree with what Leica thinks your images should look like. But you've made the first step in noticing something you want to find an answer to.

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Edited 3 hours ago by 250swb

[frame-it]

43 minutes ago, 250swb said:

If the 'style' of the JPEG is what you prefer in the final image (derived from the .dng file) then adjust it in post processing, it's called 'having an opinion' and you are free to disagree with what Leica thinks your images should look like. But you've made the first step in noticing something you want to find an answer to.

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and the fact the screen colors may not be consistent among samples of the same camera model, happens with phone screens as well