Running M11 and M10 in parallel: is it big pain?

[gbealnz]

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On 12/2/2025 at 2:43 PM, Kiwimac said:

Yes I saw that on the auction site ‘of choice’!

 

 At that cost I’d just buy a new one!!

Regurgitating this quote, that same M11M is listed and has become more reasonable in price.

[Ne314satel]

On 12/1/2025 at 12:22 PM, Kiwimac said:

The 10M is probably NZ$6,000 less than a similar 11M would be. 

The price difference is too great, and in Europe it's less. Unless you're shooting landscapes and printing them in large format, there's no difference between the M10M and M11M. The M11M truly does shoot in medium format resolution. The rest is a matter of convenience and getting used to the 10 or 11 series.

[Elliot Harper]

I have both 11 (and its variant like -P and -P safari over the time ) along with 10-r for about 2 years. The only issue I had was when using 11 for a white before turning on the 10-r I thought the 10-r was dead because it didn’t have that infamous stapler sound when it’s turned on. I thought I had another episode of 11 freeze but then I realized I was holding a 10-r.

p.s. the 10-r I own is black paint. Even thought it’s old, it still can be sold almost same price as my nearly new 11-p safari

Edited Thursday at 08:55 PM by Elliot Harper

[Stevejack]

On 12/1/2025 at 7:22 PM, Kiwimac said:

I was browsing the second hand listings and one of the dealers has a grade 8 condition M10 Monochrom for sale. 
 

I did have an M10-R briefly, which I liked. However once the M11 settled down, the quality of life improvements got me to sell the 10. 
 

There are zero second hand M11 M cameras with either of the two best NZ dealers right now. 
 

Reviews of the 10M are good. Some suggesting that the images look more analogue than the M11M images but never having owned either I can’t really speak to that. 
 

The 10M is probably NZ$6,000 less than a similar 11M would be. 
 

Of course, we then end up with different batteries, no hybrid shutter, no usb C. Etc. which could make it a pain to travel with. 
 

Operationally they’re similar enough not to be too annoying and I doubt I’d use them side by side anyway. I used to do that with Nikon D3 and 4 - one on each hip, sporting 70-200 f2.8 on one side and 17-35 f2.8 on the other. Can’t see me doing that with M. 
 

Worth considering or wait until the eventual 12M sends all the mint trade ins to the secondary market?

The M10M is amazing, I thought I would never sell it but the quality of life improvements with the M11 series won me over. I like using the visoflex for vintage lenses and the visoflex experience with the M10 series was not great. I've been very happy with the swap to the M11M but if you don't use the visoflex I would definitely go with the M10M for that price difference. I still have an M10-d, so still running two sets of batteries etc. but it's not an issue for me in practice. YMMV of course.

[jakontil]

I shoot simplest way with M, including my M films all the way to M11 series.. i dont feel differences quite significant in a way it bothers me, manual iso and speed.. of course aperture too

The only thing i notice is when using the M10 i have no auto background transfer the way the M11 did for me which is kinda useful for previewing after a day shoot.. i dont chimp too 

[Kiwimac]

I did ask the dealer about the M10-M. 
 

He knows me well (he makes more from me than my crack dealer does!🤣) and he knows that the great I send him for trade is very very rarely not graded at 10 even though I’ve used it.  
 

He responded “I do not think that one is for you!”

 

 He said he’d call me when he found one. He also said M11-M bodies only come up quite rarely “because not many have been sold in NZ”. 

[Kiwimac]

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On 12/10/2025 at 12:13 PM, gbealnz said:

Regurgitating this quote, that same M11M is listed and has become more reasonable in price.

Very slightly!