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And on the lens to a large extent - the newer lenses like the Super-Elmars and Summiluxes 21-24 perform much better than older wideangles as their design is more ele centric with digital in mind. The WATE struggles a bit as its zoom design gave less leeway in this respect. 

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Am 29.10.2025 um 18:18 schrieb Andrew Gough:

The lack of a tilting scene is a very large oversight, IMHO. No provisioning for the visoflex 2 is an equally dumb move. Whoever signed off on this, needs an elementary course in marketing.  Not having a tilt screen, kinda kills the whole Q upgrade path. For new consumers, considering a move to the M-EV1, will undoubtedly, be coming from a a mirrorless camera with a tilt screen... The only thing that the M-EV1 has over an SL3 is weight and form factor. The SL3 is cheaper, offers a better EVF experience, a tilt screen, and IBIS....

The M11 is 1.52 inches deep. My SL3 is 1.74 inches deep at the sensor. Just saying' 🤔

I see it differently. A tilt screen would put the M-EV too far from the M line. Whoever likes to have a tilt screen should potentially buy the Leica SL instead. 

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4 hours ago, jaapv said:

I had cameras with a tilt screen. Never used it. A flip screen makes more sense as you can hide and protect the LCD. For most users- who rarely photograph mushrooms or at arms’ length above their head, a tilt screen is more of a sales argument than a practical feature. 

I am the opposite. I dislike fully articulated screens as I don't do selphies or much video. But I use a flip screen all the time for different heights and angles. The Fuji/Panasonic tri tilt screens are the best as they allow use vertically as well.

Gordon

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1 minute ago, jaapv said:

My Panasonics have flip screens. I assume we are talking about the same thing: articulated screens. 

Depends on the Panasonic. The newer ones like the S1Rii have tilting screens that can also tilts vertically but can't face forward. The S5ii has a fully articulated screen. They are different.

Gordon

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