SL3-S for sports...viewfinder/shutter delay and AF

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52 minutes ago, PhotoCruiser said:

Yep!
I wrote it some days ago in another tread.

Leica builds awesome and very expensive cameras for art photography and can't never compete with Nikon/Canon in the sports photography sector.
I am sure that Leica could build a same to Nikon/Canon pro level camera but they would need to design a perfectly ergonomic housing, totally new software, build new or bigger factories to build them in the usualy top level Leica quality and organize also a very fast assistance for pro photographers
This all simply does not make any economic sense for Leica as penetrating a saturated and for Leica a totally new market would be a huge investment and i guess Leica and their shareholders know that very well.
Leica wanted one to enter the market of pro studio cameras with their R and S system and it was not a huge success so they seem to stop any further development.

There are some camera brands they build cameras for a purpose and continue to stick with that purpose as they can do it best, Leica and Hasselblad for example.
Nikon, Canon, Sony and Panasonic and the others build cameras covering all aspects of photography from tiny compacts to bulky pro level cameras and lenses and sell millions of their cameras and that is (fortunately) not Leicas business.

Chris

Quite some of the Leica-tech come from/via Panasonic's Lumix line, so to the extent that Panasonic continuous to be 'innovative', things will continue to be included in Leica-bodies as well, with a time lag. But I agree, for sports/wildlife/etc, the top products from the big players are at another level.

 

[jaapv]

Indeed. In the time that Leica built the best tele lenses in the world, the Apo Telyts and one of the most elaborate cameras the R8 and R9, the number of sports PJs using them was about zero and the development bankrupted them. Only a miracle saved the company. In this age the R&D would be magnitudes more expensive. 

Many except the fastest sports can be done by SL cameras and Sigma lenses and wildlife -except the most extreme variants- is no problem but as a general camera it is not specifically built for the purpose. 
BTW, I cannot understand why sports and wildlife photography always get lumped together by outsiders. The only common factor is the use of long lenses. I have yet to see a sports photographer eaten by a Lion. Or Baboons playing Ice Hockey. Very few Baseball games in the Arctic or Gobi Desert either. 

[LocalHero1953]

2 hours ago, PhotoCruiser said:

Leica builds awesome and very expensive cameras for art photography and can't never compete with Nikon/Canon in the sports photography sector.

If Leica has a target use for its cameras, I have always thought of it as being 'general purpose' rather than for a particular sector. You can use M, Q and SL for a wide range of subjects, but if you need a camera tuned for a specific purpose then you're better off elsewhere.

JMO

Edited Wednesday at 10:37 AM by LocalHero1953

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41 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

If Leica has a target use for its cameras, I have always thought of it as being 'general purpose' rather than for a particular sector. You can use M, Q and SL for a wide range of subjects, but if you need a camera tuned specifically for a specific purpose then you're better off elsewhere.

JMO

I think in many peoples eyes sport and wildlife photography ( and I too don`t understand why they are lumped together) represent some sort of pinnacle of achievement  .... a benchmark if you will and they expect a top brand company like Leica to be competing in that market or in the very least being capable of.

As pointed out that would be ruinous .

 

[PhotoCruiser]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb LocalHero1953:

I have always thought of it as being 'general purpose' rather than for a particular sector.

Art photography (not photographing artwork/repro) is general purpose while sport photography is not.
Art in the sense of street, portrait, still, landscape, etc for either personal use or for professional work and that makes them general purpose cameras.
i have the impression that many Leica owners have the idea and are convinced to do art, above the normal holiday "knipsing" most people with a beginner, non expensive camera do. It is absolutely possible to take great photos with a cheap camera but photography needs knowledge about it to take great photos.

"Knipsing" is my own translation coming from "Knipsen" what is the German word for taking photos but has a kind of bad taste as it is frequently used for people who just shoot photos without low/any knowledge about photography.

Chris

Edited Wednesday at 11:58 AM by PhotoCruiser