Camera shutter count, nonsense?

[Einst_Stein]

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It matters if it’s pure mechanical. Aging can affect shutter speed, but this is nor a problem on electronic controlled shutter.. 

Of course everything has its time.Any part can wear out, regardless moving or not. Some may be the recharging times, some may be knob switching times. I have seen exposure count on digital back, absolutely nonsense. I have seen oil change count on cars, what an idiot.

 Is shutter count significant important? At all?

[frame-it]

maybe only for people who want to buy a used digital camera..and realistically after a huge 100,000 mechanical shutter count..

there are also people who start talking about the box and plastic just after they get delivery of the camera, they haven't even used it but are apparently thinking about resale value..

 

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[250swb]

Ah, memories. I'm taken back to the days when it was possible to check the shutter count on an M9, and there was uproar because people were getting new cameras with 200 shots on them, so it must be a shop demo camera, right? 

Shutter count doesn't mean much, if it's said to be 250,000 actuations doesn't mean it fails at that point, it could go on for another 250,000. Nobody knows, it's as much to do with how the camera is used, or if it's been serviced during those 250,000 actuations. So perspective is needed, just like perspective solved the problem of the high shutter count of brand new M9's, which of course was because the shutter count started while the camera was on the production line being tested and re-tested. 

[Chris W]

People ask me all the time about the 'shutter count' when I'm selling a camera. I think it's just an indication of how old a camera is and how heavily it's been used, not particularly a concern that the shutter might be about to fail.

[jaapv]

7 hours ago, 250swb said:

Ah, memories. I'm taken back to the days when it was possible to check the shutter count on an M9, and there was uproar because people were getting new cameras with 200 shots on them, so it must be a shop demo camera, right? 

Shutter count doesn't mean much, if it's said to be 250,000 actuations doesn't mean it fails at that point, it could go on for another 250,000. Nobody knows, it's as much to do with how the camera is used, or if it's been serviced during those 250,000 actuations. So perspective is needed, just like perspective solved the problem of the high shutter count of brand new M9's, which of course was because the shutter count started while the camera was on the production line being tested and re-tested. 

And it takes just one grain of sand between the shutter blades to destroy a shutter...

[pgh]

On 9/11/2025 at 3:46 AM, Chris W said:

People ask me all the time about the 'shutter count' when I'm selling a camera. I think it's just an indication of how old a camera is and how heavily it's been used, not particularly a concern that the shutter might be about to fail.

This is why I ask. Because when something is new, it is new. When it is used, it can be hard to tell just how used it is.
 

My m10, by pure luck, is still cosmetically almost perfect. If I bought it used I could easily be told it took 1-2k pics. But I’ve put about 40k on it, and it’s been consistently active for 7 years. The shutter is the only thing that hints at that. (not selling tho). It’s just a data point. No more no less.