Latest 35 & 50 Nokton f1.2 lenses

[garysamson]

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Camera Quest states that the latest versions of the 35 & 50 Nokton f1.2 lenses are optimized for the Leica M11. Does anyone know what that actually means, or is it just hype? 

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[M Street Photographer]

I own the 35 1.2 III. After consulting my dealer, a large German Vogtland dealer, about the difference between versions III and IV, he simply said, "Ask Voigtlander." In other words, there isn't one, at least not one you can see for yourself. I think it's a marketing myth, and it's not even nicely packaged.

On my M10R it performs very well and is perfectly adjusted.

[garysamson]

5 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said:

I own the 35 1.2 III. After consulting my dealer, a large German Vogtland dealer, about the difference between versions III and IV, he simply said, "Ask Voigtlander." In other words, there isn't one, at least not one you can see for yourself. I think it's a marketing myth, and it's not even nicely packaged.

On my M10R it performs very well and is perfectly adjusted.

Thanks!

[FrozenInTime]

@Fred Miranda has a deep dive review in progress on the new lenses, and lots of experience on the prior versions:  https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1904365/

“Even though the core design hasn't changed, there's something worth noting. It looks like Cosina has improved the aspherical element manufacturing”

[garysamson]

15 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said:

@Fred Miranda has a deep dive review in progress on the new lenses, and lots of experience on the prior versions:  https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1904365/

“Even though the core design hasn't changed, there's something worth noting. It looks like Cosina has improved the aspherical element manufacturing”

This is very helpful, thanks!

[M Street Photographer]

vor 25 Minuten schrieb FrozenInTime:

@Fred Miranda has a deep dive review in progress on the new lenses, and lots of experience on the prior versions:  https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1904365/

“Even though the core design hasn't changed, there's something worth noting. It looks like Cosina has improved the aspherical element manufacturing”

What does "seems" mean? Have you compared Miranda 35 1.2 versions III and IV? If so, what is the visible difference?

Unfortunately, I cannot find a summary of the two lenses and their visible differences.

Edited July 6 by M Street Photographer

[gammarART]

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According to Miranda, the bokeh has “improved” especially because onion rings have been almost eliminated. This is seen as a gain by some and a loss by others. Taste will determine whether this aspect, the black front ring, and the slightly lighter weight are enough to switch to the new versions.

[M Street Photographer]

There's neither a sample nor a comparison photo of the 35 1.2 versions. Miranda only showed the 40 1.2 and ONE comparison with the LLL. Please read my question correctly.