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I have a new M6 re-edition model and after 3 rolls of film the camera has a problem so it looks….

There is to much space between two photo’s when I look at the negatives. 
 

The first roll all was fine, the second roll at the second half of the roll the problems started. With the third roll only the last 6 photo’s where fine, the rest of the roll there is to much space between the photo’s. 
 

Is this a well known problem with this camera?? And what to do about it? 
 

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Over all my years of owning various film M, this issue cropped up a few times, mostly with my M3. Fixable by a repair person. Since his is a new camera, if I were you, I would take it back to my dealer and either get a replacement body or a quick repair. It is a fairly easy adjustment if I remember correctly.

 

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2 minutes ago, Jean-Michel said:

Over all my years of owning various film M, this issue cropped up a few times, mostly with my M3. Fixable by a repair person. Since his is a new camera, if I were you, I would take it back to my dealer and either get a replacement body or a quick repair. It is a fairly easy adjustment if I remember correctly.

 

Good to read that is a fairly easy adjustment 😉

I contacted my camera store and the want to see what’s going on in the camera when there is film in it. But I think it must go to a repair shop/ person. We will see, but i’m a little disappointed 😔 brand new camera. I know there can be problems with any new camera or brand but this is Leica 😬 

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The only time I see that with my M cameras (although not as much) is if I’ve wound on with a couple of half strokes instead of a whole stroke. Winding on with a half strokes is often useful if you want to keep the camera very stable while still at the eye. On the other hand doing the same with a Nikon doesn’t vary the frame spacing.

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11 minutes ago, 250swb said:

The only time I see that with my M cameras (although not as much) is if I’ve wound on with a couple of half strokes instead of a whole stroke. Winding on with a half strokes is often useful if you want to keep the camera very stable while still at the eye. On the other hand doing the same with a Nikon doesn’t vary the frame spacing.

Thanks for your reply. 
I will think about that, did I do half strokes or not 🤔 

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2 minutes ago, Wwin said:

Thanks for your reply. 
I will think about that, did I do half strokes or not 🤔 

Thing is if you know about half strokes it’s an instinct. Maybe another roll is called for?

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8 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Thing is if you know about half strokes it’s an instinct. Maybe another roll is called for?

I did full strokes. I’m 99.99% sure about it 😊 

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2 hours ago, Wwin said:

I did full strokes. I’m 99.99% sure about it 😊 

Well just check to see if there is a difference of frame spacing between horizontal and vertical shots. 

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All the suggestions of half-strokes vs full-strokes, horizontal vs vertical should not make any difference in a properly-working camera. Take it to the dealer, have it fixed or replaced.

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5 minutes ago, Pieter12 said:

All the suggestions of half-strokes vs full-strokes, horizontal vs vertical should not make any difference in a properly-working camera. Take it to the dealer, have it fixed or replaced.

I will do that, I already contacted the dealer. They want to do a test, but I think it must be fixed. Maybe i can get a new one. 

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If it's a new camera under warranty then of course it must go back to the dealer unless you're in a country with no consumer rights laws. And of course they will want to do tests to check it is not user-error (and I agree, it appears not to be). And of course it would then need to go for repair - as a new camera under warranty, that means back to Leica (in your country, or Wetzlar). Sending it to an alternative repair shop without Leica's agreement could void your warranty. Frankly this is the normal sequence of action whether you've bought a cheap digital watch or a Leica.

Whether you can get a new camera as a replacement (or loan) is down to your local consumer rights laws, or your persuasive powers with the dealer.

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This is extremely frustrating to deal with if you scan your own negatives.

I've had this issue only once in a Canon F1N and it wasn't as egregious as the examples shown here.

Unacceptable in any camera, expecially one this expensive.

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4 minutes ago, plaidshirts said:

This is extremely frustrating to deal with if you scan your own negatives.

I've had this issue only once in a Canon F1N and it wasn't as egregious as the examples shown here.

Unacceptable in any camera, expecially one this expensive.

It’s unacceptable for sure! 
my camerashop is gonna put a test roll of film trough it and contact Leica. But my photo’s which I show said it all….

Now I have to wait on Leica what there reply will be. Repair or a new one. I have the camera for 2,5 months now and I don’t want to wait for a repair for months…..
 

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On 7/4/2025 at 2:12 PM, Wwin said:

I will do that, I already contacted the dealer. They want to do a test, but I think it must be fixed. Maybe i can get a new one. 

 

23 hours ago, Wwin said:

It’s unacceptable for sure! 
my camerashop is gonna put a test roll of film trough it and contact Leica. But my photo’s which I show said it all….

Now I have to wait on Leica what there reply will be. Repair or a new one. I have the camera for 2,5 months now and I don’t want to wait for a repair for months…..
 

I find it common for Leica products to have initial calibration issues (both lenses and bodies). A new camera is probably unnecessary and highly unlikely unless this is a true manufacturing issue (which are much more rare). 

For me its a slight headache, but I find the products to be extremely reliable and robust once calibrated properly. 

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