SL3 delayed functioning behavior

[mirrorless]

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I shoot weddings with a Q3 and SL3. During my last wedding in quite warm environment I had several times the problem that the SL3 suddenly startet not to work smoothly anymore. When pressing the shutter for pre-AF nothing happened. Sometimes it also showed the first picture on the card instead the last one taken after a shot. Sometimes it did not shoot at all. But it did not completely stop working, more of a delay that got worse and worse. So quite a weird behavior. I shoot with a CFe SanDisk and a SD UHS-II V60 SanDisk to backup the files. I rule out, that the V60 card is too slow and caused the problem since I did not shoot continously. What I did in the meantime is to completely reset the camera to factory settings. I hope this helps for the moment. Firmware is up to date... Anybody here who can sing a song from this problem and has a solution? THX!

Edited June 16 by mirrorless

[lightsourcekauai]

Not sure if this helps, but my SL3 had issues that began with a slow review of files. I would need to push the playback button twice to get to the saved files. About 6 weeks later my SL3 powered off and rebooted to factory defaults, erasing saved profiles and custom function buttons and dials. The next day it would only stay on for a few minutes before powering down. I contacted Leica and sent it in for a repair via Leica Store SF. 9 weeks later I received the camera with a Leica card stating that it meets factory standards. No notice of what was wrong or what repairs were made. A forum member speculated that an internal battery went bad. Who knows???

All the best,

Lee

[mirrorless]

I still got the problem and wonder if anybody could replicate this in the meantime, eventually with a solution? I also changed both cards (CFe and SD) without luck. Contacted Leica and wait for a response, but I cannot give the camera out for repair several weeks. 

[Jonathan Levin]

Maybe you tried this? Use only cfe see if that works. Then try sd by itself. Any improvement? And the cards were reformated (in camera) after reset?

Edited September 7 by Jonathan Levin

[PeterBoyadjian]

V90 cards all the way, both cameras are sluggish as it is. 

Leicas down work well with v60 cards from my experience. 

[JiriS]

I had the same issue and it was because I was using the SD card (Sandisk) alongside CF Express. Once I used only CFe, the camera was much faster to operate and especially accessing the playback functionality is significantly faster. It sucks because now I don't have backups of my files on SD. I tried saving only jpg files on SD and DNG on CFe but that still causes performance issues. 

[Ken Abrahams]

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Great, I have been experiencing this exact issue and it has been so frustrating and should have spoken up long ago. It wasnt always working like this eg: press twice to see playback. I am not sure when it first started but I do have another SD card in the SL3 slot. I will take it out right now. 

[Carrot]

Is the same happening with the SL3-S?

[mirrorless]

Thanks a lot for your response! I will try shooting only with the CFe-Card next. But especially on weddings I really would like to stick with 2x cards in the SL3 to have a backup. On the other hand the Q3 has also only 1 card on board and I never had an issue especially with V90-cards. So I might go with the option to have a 100% responsive camera all the time to get every shot even with the relative small risk not to have a backup. If I count all of these frustrating moments together with this freeze problem, it was like having several corrupt cards at the end... Nevertheless Leica should come up with a firmware-update. This is unacceptable for this brand and its reputation and all other brands don't have such an issue. I try to correspond with them here in Germany about this issue and keep you posted. 

[Ken Abrahams]

No its not occurring with the SL3S 

Ken

[Ken Abrahams]

I think you will find that the camera will work okay with an SDHC or SDXC cards the ones with two sets of contacts. 

Ken  

41 minutes ago, mirrorless said:

Thanks a lot for your response! I will try shooting only with the CFe-Card next. But especially on weddings I really would like to stick with 2x cards in the SL3 to have a backup. On the other hand the Q3 has also only 1 card on board and I never had an issue especially with V90-cards. So I might go with the option to have a 100% responsive camera all the time to get every shot even with the relative small risk not to have a backup. If I count all of these frustrating moments together with this freeze problem, it was like having several corrupt cards at the end... Nevertheless Leica should come up with a firmware-update. This is unacceptable for this brand and its reputation and all other brands don't have such an issue. I try to correspond with them here in Germany about this issue and keep you posted. 

 

[jaapv]

Maybe Leica should communicate the need for this type of card more clearly.

[mirrorless]

Well the behaviour is not a problem of the SD-Card speed. Only when using both cards in backup mode (CFe and the fastest SD UHS-II V90) the problem obviously shows up. I assume when using only one of the cards the camera will not freeze as someone suggested here. 

[Photoworks]

5 hours ago, mirrorless said:

Thanks a lot for your response! I will try shooting only with the CFe-Card next. But especially on weddings I really would like to stick with 2x cards in the SL3 to have a backup. On the other hand the Q3 has also only 1 card on board and I never had an issue especially with V90-cards. So I might go with the option to have a 100% responsive camera all the time to get every shot even with the relative small risk not to have a backup. If I count all of these frustrating moments together with this freeze problem, it was like having several corrupt cards at the end... Nevertheless Leica should come up with a firmware-update. This is unacceptable for this brand and its reputation and all other brands don't have such an issue. I try to correspond with them here in Germany about this issue and keep you posted. 

The read of the CF B card can still be slow, even after the latest firmware update. It did get better, and more improvements are very much needed for the SL3.
many CF-express B cards with different charateristins, the controller on the card has a bit of influence on how quickly it will find the file, thermal management on the card does something too.

I have similar issues with other cameras with CF-B cards

[BernardC]

5 hours ago, mirrorless said:

This is unacceptable for this brand and its reputation and all other brands don't have such an issue.

Both Canon and Sony have had recent issues with card compatibility. Sony's was especially embarrassing because it was caused by their own "Tough" cards. It doesn't help with your current issue, but other brands aren't immune.

[mirrorless]

vor 1 Minute schrieb BernardC:

Both Canon and Sony have had recent issues with card compatibility. Sony's was especially embarrassing because it was caused by their own "Tough" cards. It doesn't help with your current issue, but other brands aren't immune.

Oh, OK I had 2x Sony A7RIII for many years and they never ever let me down in the past...

[hoolyproductions]

I have noticed this happening with my SL3 but only when I first turn the camera on - if I press the playback button while it is still 'booting up' I have to press it again. I have not noticed this during normal operation (although I mostly been using my SL3-S and Q3 43 recently). I use two cards in back up mode, and my SDXC card is a Lexar v60 (because I was of the understanding that v90 only is needed for video work or high speed bursts, neither of which I do).

Edit: I did test this last night with my SL3 after reading here and did not experience any issue.

Edited September 9 by hoolyproductions

[mirrorless]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb hoolyproductions:

I have noticed this happening with my SL3 but only when I first turn the camera on - if I press the playback button while it is still 'booting up' I have to press it again. I have not noticed this during normal operation (although I mostly been using my SL3-S and Q3 43 recently). I use two cards in back up mode, and my SDXC card is a Lexar v60 (because I was of the understanding that v90 only is needed for video work or high speed bursts, neither of which I do).

Edit: I did test this last night with my SL3 after reading here and did not experience any issue.

In my case the problem starts after 300-400 and more shots when the camera is warmer, so it is unfortunately not reproducible with some test shots.

[Ken Abrahams]

It wont happen with USHD2 cards only the older ones USHD1 

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[mirrorless]

vor 9 Minuten schrieb Ken Abrahams:

It wont happen with USHD2 cards only the older ones USHD1 

Thanks, but I use the latest and fastest UHS-II V90 Card with 300 MB/s write-speed from SanDisk together with a CFe Tybe-B Card from SanDisk and it also happens with the very latest cards.