tappan Posted June 15 Share #1 Posted June 15 Advertisement (gone after registration) Please Peter Karbe, Stefan Daniel and Dr Kauffman. I would love THAT lens! 🙂 Thank you!! Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Hi tappan, Take a look here 24mm M close focus. C'mon Leica. U can do it!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lazyhusky Posted June 18 Share #2 Posted June 18 At this point I would be thrilled if Leica introduce any new 24mm lenses. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted July 7 Share #3 Posted July 7 (edited) Or Cosina could make us a nice Voigtländer 25mm/2 Apo that focuses close for a lot less cash-ola. I would love it tif they also made they 65mm/2 Apo macro lens in M Mount. Edited July 7 by sdk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted July 7 Share #4 Posted July 7 (edited) 46 minutes ago, sdk said: Or Cosina could make us a nice Voigtländer 25mm/2 Apo that focuses close for a lot less cash-ola. I would love it tif they also made they 65mm/2 Apo macro lens in M Mount. I think if an EVF M proves successful, we will likely see more ‘odd’ focal lengths that do not have corresponding framelines. Manufacturers know that on the current M, 28/35/50 lenses are where the majority of the money is at. Edited July 7 by costa43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 8 Share #5 Posted July 8 (edited) Quote 24mm M close focus. C'mon Leica. U can do it! U have done it, even. (Up to some extent that is) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The proof of the pudding is in showing it. You can borrow my copy to see how you started off to do it . . Mine is a prototype of some sorts. 😗 Edited July 8 by Alberti Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The proof of the pudding is in showing it. You can borrow my copy to see how you started off to do it . . Mine is a prototype of some sorts. 😗 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422161-24mm-m-close-focus-cmon-leica-u-can-do-it/?do=findComment&comment=5830111'>More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted July 9 Share #6 Posted July 9 I don’t personally think that 24 has much chance of surviving. Opinion seems divided as to whether it is a focal length even made now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 9 Share #7 Posted July 9 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, Kiwimac said: focal length even made now. It hasn't been made by Leica for some time. I have 24mm Elmar-M and it is a great lens. I don't know why you would specifically need close focus for a 24mm, but easy to use Novoflex adapter and Visoflex EVF to get as close as you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 9 Share #8 Posted July 9 On 6/14/2025 at 7:58 PM, tappan said: Please Peter Karbe, Stefan Daniel and Dr Kauffman. I would love THAT lens! 🙂 Thank you!! Mark Find a school blackboard, and write on it 100 times.... Leica is NOT A CHARITY for photographers! Leica tried selling 24mm M lenses for about 20 years. Apparently they simply did not provide enough return on investment (ongoing sales revenue per cost of manufacture, warehousing, dedicated packaging, and dedicated accessories (front caps, hoods, viewfinders, etc)), compared to other focal lengths. There were better ways, in Leica's opinion, to invest their money. Now, if you can persuade Leica (including their 45% co-owner, the private-equity firm The Blackstone Group) that there is a profitable market for a 24mm lens, at least large enough to sustainably equal the ROI on their other M lenses (e.g. the traditional 21mms and/or 28mms), Leica might pay attention. That is how the director of Leitz Canada persuaded Leitz Wetzlar, in 1976, to reverse a decision to kill the M rangefinder system entirely! He brought in 1000 confirmed orders for a "low-cost M4" (the M4-2, to be built by ELCAN) which he had personally obtained from dealers, and laid them on the desk of whoever was running Ernst Leitz GmbH then (Dr. Knut Kühn-Leitz?). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappan Posted July 10 Author Share #9 Posted July 10 4 hours ago, adan said: Find a school blackboard, and write on it 100 times.... Leica is NOT A CHARITY for photographers! Leica tried selling 24mm M lenses for about 20 years. Apparently they simply did not provide enough return on investment (ongoing sales revenue per cost of manufacture, warehousing, dedicated packaging, and dedicated accessories (front caps, hoods, viewfinders, etc)), compared to other focal lengths. There were better ways, in Leica's opinion, to invest their money. Now, if you can persuade Leica (including their 45% co-owner, the private-equity firm The Blackstone Group) that there is a profitable market for a 24mm lens, at least large enough to sustainably equal the ROI on their other M lenses (e.g. the traditional 21mms and/or 28mms), Leica might pay attention. That is how the director of Leitz Canada persuaded Leitz Wetzlar, in 1976, to reverse a decision to kill the M rangefinder system entirely! He brought in 1000 confirmed orders for a "low-cost M4" (the M4-2, to be built by ELCAN) which he had personally obtained from dealers, and laid them on the desk of whoever was running Ernst Leitz GmbH then (Dr. Knut Kühn-Leitz?). Easy. Alan Schaller. He's very popular right now. His favorite lens is the 24mm. Riff off that. Sell lots of new/reissued 24mm lenses. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleabag Posted July 10 Share #10 Posted July 10 Not before I sold mine please 😅 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 10 Share #11 Posted July 10 Schaller is indeed to blame that I am looking at a second 24 (if only not available, maybe 28) larger aperture lens than 3.5. I use the 24 Elmar instead of 28/2.8. - In fact, on the M8 at that time I was choosing between Zeiss 25/28mm and took the latter while the first was noticebly better. And macro? Well here + Oubio. . . The lens formula can do it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240 But we should keep on dreaming and take bold leaps . . M240 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240 But we should keep on dreaming and take bold leaps . . M240 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422161-24mm-m-close-focus-cmon-leica-u-can-do-it/?do=findComment&comment=5831338'>More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted July 11 Share #12 Posted July 11 24mm may have made more sense when the M8-series M cameras, with their 1.3x crop factor, were being manufactured, perhaps?. The resulting angle-of-view was the rough equivalent of 32mm. I sometimes use the wonderful Leica Elmar-M 24mm ASPH. I find 24mm more interesting than 28mm, for my feeble attempts at local “street photography,” when it is difficult to get close enough with a 21mm lens. My major love for 24mm is to use for landscape photography, especially in woodland environments, which I have actually done only rarely, thus far, with my travels being limited by my beloved Bella, an aging pet German Shepherd dog, who only recently passed away. (Her aging hind legs made it difficult for her to get into the vehicle, yet she was too heavy for me to be able to safely and comfortably lift her.) 24mm does require more care than 28mm, in keeping the camera level, to prevent “keystone” distortion. The Elmar-M 24mm ASPH shares some accessories with other lenses in the line-up. The hood is the same as the one used on the first Summilux 35mm FLE, and may be the same one used on the 21mm SEM. Cosina has a history of manufacturing 25mm lenses. Not 24mm, of course, but close. The one manufactured for Zeiss, the Biogon T* 25mm f/2,8 ZM, appears to be remaining in the current Zeiss ZM line, and is a like-able lens, in my opinion. More than one serious reviewer has opined that the 25mm ZM is a stronger performer than the 28mm ZM. My 25mm ZM, too, has been awaiting my capability to travel freely, for landscape shooting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 12 Share #13 Posted July 12 I'd pay my money in advance for a 24 Lux with updated optics. 24/35 are my most used focal lengths in M. They killed the 24 APO for the SL although promised which royally pissed me off. Wanted 24-35-75 APO's and have no had to settle for 21-35-75, not what I had planned for or was promised when entering the SL system. Had I known they were going to drop the 24mm, I never would have bought into the SL system. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8fire Posted July 12 Share #14 Posted July 12 I love my 24 Lux but i have to agree that since I own the close focus version of the 28, 35 and 50 LUX, the lack of close-focus is annoying…. I’d certainly be up for the upgrade if one came out as 24 is a focal length I love. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 13 Share #15 Posted July 13 At a certain moment I had four 28mm lenses. I now only have the Summaron-28 left. It is only for bright lit days . . . The residual distortion is soft. I like the 24/3.8 more in everything, in every light. It's character sort of matches the 35Summilux FLE. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13 Share #16 Posted July 13 4 hours ago, Alberti said: At a certain moment I had four 28mm lenses. I now only have the Summaron-28 left. It is only for bright lit days . . . The residual distortion is soft. I like the 24/3.8 more in everything, in every light. It's character sort of matches the 35Summilux FLE. I couldn’t agree more - the 24/3.8 is my main lens now (I shoot documentary/reportage on M10M). It’s my fave FOV and M lens - just love it! Had the 24Lux as well, which I sold in preference of the 24/3.8. Rendering, contrast and handling of light is amazing! And I agree, it has similarity to the 35FLE in rendering without the nervous bokeh. 24mm is such a versatile and interesting FOV much more so than 28mm IMO. 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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