Leica S E 006 Sensor status

[rollsman4]

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Is it possible that NOT all the SE 006 sensors were bad ?  

 I did contact leica support to see if a S E 006 that I am interested in buying had the sensor Replaced. They have no record of it being replaced

So, my question if it has NOT been replaced could it be a later model that was replaced after the recall?

I would think by now that if this particular camera I might purchase is still working ok after so many years is it safe to assume it has the newer sensor?

  TY  

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[frame-it]

10 minutes ago, rollsman4 said:

Is it possible that NOT all the SE 006 sensors were bad ?  

 I did contact leica support to see if a S E 006 that I am interested in buying had the sensor Replaced. They have no record of it being replaced

So, my question if it has NOT been replaced could it be a later model that was replaced after the recall?

I would think by now that if this particular camera I might purchase is still working ok after so many years is it safe to assume it has the newer sensor?

  TY  

but is the seller actually still using it? get recent sample pics taken with this camera before you buy it?

[rollsman4]

The seller is MPB and Gives 6 month warranty. So I cant ask them to do that

[rollsman4]

Thank you I appreciate your responding

[Slender]

hmmmm..... MPB warranty is now 1 year in the UK. As far as I know its also un-conditional. Ask them if they would refund or replace the camera should corrosion issue happen.
 

[BernardC]

13 hours ago, rollsman4 said:

Is it possible that NOT all the SE 006 sensors were bad ?  

 I did contact leica support to see if a S E 006 that I am interested in buying had the sensor Replaced. They have no record of it being replaced

So, my question if it has NOT been replaced could it be a later model that was replaced after the recall?

I would think by now that if this particular camera I might purchase is still working ok after so many years is it safe to assume it has the newer sensor?

Have you tested the camera yourself? Stores may not know how to look for sensor cover deterioration.

Here's my quick and easy technique:

• Open a new document in a text editor. You are doing this to get a white screen on a computer monitor.
• Take a picture of the white screen at a small aperture (F:11 or f:16). The white screen should cover the whole image, and it should be out of focus. Try not to over-expose too much.
• Zoom-in to your images on the camera's rear screen (or in an image editor). Look at the whole image, bit by bit. Sensor issues will appear as dark blurry spots.
• You can ask the store to clean the sensor if you aren't sure whether you are looking at dust or sensor separation.

As far as I know, there are no "later" models that are immune. S-E models are affected, and they were S-006 closeout models that were sold concurrently with the new S-007.

[Jeff S]

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[rollsman4]

Thank you all for sharing this Valuable info.  

[Stuart Richardson]

It is also just a matter of luck and environmental conditions. I think it is in some way related to humidity too, so if the camera was primarily used and stored in a low humidity environment it may be expected to have lower levels of corrosion. But I think it is coming for all of them eventually. Digital cameras do not have an infinite shelf life. Even electronic analog cameras. My Hexar AF eventually died because the circuit board corroded or one of the parts degraded. It was mechanically fine, but the electronics gave up the ghost. It seems like for consumer or professional gear 30 or 40 years is a timeline where failures start to add up, though many are still ok. Things like capacitors tend to dry out and age after 20 years or so and if left long enough will just die. I think that happened with mine. For things like old amplifiers they are big enough and easy enough to access that techs and amateurs will replace them, but in the case of cameras I think there are few technicians who are willing to really play around to figure out which particular component of the circuit board died, and in the case of a company like Konica, it left photography decades ago and parts are only available from donor cameras. In the case of the S cameras, you are kind of at the mercy of Leica or the companies that will consider working with them. Personally I would not get a S006 whose sensor had not been replaced unless you treat it as a semi-disposable item. One that you can use for a few months or years. If you are lucky, maybe 5 or 10, if not, maybe a few months. But realistically, do you expect to be using an S006 in 2035? My guess is that you may not be.

Edited Friday at 04:14 PM by Stuart Richardson

[rollsman4]

Thank you Stuart, You make a lot of sense.  I will wait till I see one that the sensor was replaced. Or If the price comes down on the S3 after Leica announces the new S4  

[John McMaster]

The S(007) can be bought quite cheaply these days...

john