Einst_Stein Posted May 17 Share #1 Posted May 17 Advertisement (gone after registration) Recently I found an interesting square format toy camera, Chuzhao retro dual lens, that mimics TLR. I wonder whether there is enough market interests for a more series square format digital. Maybe with sensor of 20mm x 20mm (after APS-C) or 16mm x 16mm (after M43), 24-75m equivalent lens, and flippable waist level LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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erl Posted May 17 Share #2 Posted May 17 As an unashamed and avid Hasselblad user, I love the square format, for many reasons. Being square is being there! The best way to get the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 17 Author Share #3 Posted May 17 21 minutes ago, erl said: As an unashamed and avid Hasselblad user, I love the square format, for many reasons. Being square is being there! The best way to get the picture. Me too. I use both Contax 645 and Leica S3. I prefer Contax 645 4:3 aspect to Leica S3 3:2 because I often drop to 1:1 in LR. Square format would be more ideal to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted May 17 Share #4 Posted May 17 See Panasonic S9: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Panasonic is in trend with you. They even state for the (3:2) format: Image ratio of a standard film camera! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Panasonic is in trend with you. They even state for the (3:2) format: Image ratio of a standard film camera! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421308-square-format-digital-ps/?do=findComment&comment=5803271'>More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 17 Author Share #5 Posted May 17 1 hour ago, jankap said: See Panasonic S9: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Panasonic is in trend with you. They even state for the (3:2) format: Image ratio of a standard film camera! Many digital cameras support various cropped format that will lose some sensor area if not the native sensor format. I rarely use in-camera cropping. Cropping is part of post-processing. Panasonic M43 is a little exception with its special native sensor shape. A native square format would be preferred for square format lovers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitW Posted May 17 Share #6 Posted May 17 I believe the new Fuji GFX100RF has an aspect ratio dial and from what I've heard people seem to enjoy breaking free of 16:9. I have a CL with small lenses to match. If they ever make a full-frame camera in a similar size, I very much hope they will allow it to use the full extent of the sensor to capture square images without going outside the image circle. This animation shows how you can get substantially more resolution for a square crop from an APSC lens, if you have a larger sensor. White shows the image size you get if you crop a full frame sensor to various aspect ratios. Green shows the largest image you can get from an APSC lens if you are allowed to use the full frame sensor fully. Red shows the proportion of the full frame sensor you use if you use an APSC sensor then crop again to get the aspect ratio you're looking for. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! There's quite a substantial advantage for a square crop = substantially more resolution / less noise at post-processing. With an APSC sensor on full frame you can also get a vertical image without tilting the camera. If you had a slightly larger sensor (36*30.6mm rather than 36*24mm) you could use your existing full frame lenses to capture 30.6x30.6 = 936mm^2 images rather than 24x24 = 576mm^2 images i.e. 60% more pixels. The difference here of course is that you have to build different format hardware, which I assume would be expensive. There are some interesting possibilities if there is ever enough demand. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! There's quite a substantial advantage for a square crop = substantially more resolution / less noise at post-processing. With an APSC sensor on full frame you can also get a vertical image without tilting the camera. If you had a slightly larger sensor (36*30.6mm rather than 36*24mm) you could use your existing full frame lenses to capture 30.6x30.6 = 936mm^2 images rather than 24x24 = 576mm^2 images i.e. 60% more pixels. The difference here of course is that you have to build different format hardware, which I assume would be expensive. There are some interesting possibilities if there is ever enough demand. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421308-square-format-digital-ps/?do=findComment&comment=5803378'>More sharing options...
jankap Posted May 17 Share #7 Posted May 17 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 minutes ago, KitW said: I believe the new Fuji GFX100RF has an aspect ratio dial and from what I've heard people seem to enjoy breaking free of 16:9. I have a CL with small lenses to match. If they ever make a full-frame camera in a similar size, I very much hope they will allow it to use the full extent of the sensor to capture square images without going outside the image circle. This animation shows how you can get substantially more resolution for a square crop from an APSC lens, if you have a larger sensor. White shows the image size you get if you crop a full frame sensor to various aspect ratios. Green shows the largest image you can get from an APSC lens if you are allowed to use the full frame sensor fully. Red shows the proportion of the full frame sensor you use if you use an APSC sensor then crop again to get the aspect ratio you're looking for. Hi, those cubic heads want a special quadratic sensor. They do not realize, that the sensor of the M8 was not larger than 24Mb (even smaller). And that everybody was happy with the M8. In such another thread, I have proposed, that they should force the industry to produce circular sensors. Diameter 42.3 mm for the optimal use of M-lenses. Edited May 17 by jankap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 17 Author Share #8 Posted May 17 Regardless their camera sensor aspect, 3:2 is usually not the ending print aspect. I heard from a frame store owner that 5:4, 4:3, and 1:1 are among the top sales. The good thing about the 3:2 aspect ratio of camera is for cropping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 23 Share #9 Posted May 23 I would rather not digitally crop. So I would absolutely love a digital 1:1 camera. It's shame since digital most cameras follow the same formula, either 4:3 or 3:2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted May 23 Share #10 Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Chris W said: I would rather not digitally crop. So I would absolutely love a digital 1:1 camera. It's shame since digital most cameras follow the same formula, either 4:3 or 3:2. A quality digital camera shaped like a scaled down Hasselblad 500, with top LCD, WLF and flip up magnifier, and took either m43 or M mount lenses, would be a dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 26 Author Share #11 Posted May 26 On 5/23/2025 at 8:23 AM, FrozenInTime said: A quality digital camera shaped like a scaled down Hasselblad 500, with top LCD, WLF and flip up magnifier, and took either m43 or M mount lenses, would be a dream. Or, L mount lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted June 4 Share #12 Posted June 4 Leica DLux8 has a 1:1 ratio option. Have used it a couple of times as well ast 16:9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted June 6 Author Share #13 Posted June 6 On 6/4/2025 at 9:21 AM, jhluxton said: Leica DLux8 has a 1:1 ratio option. Have used it a couple of times as well ast 16:9. Wish a camera to use square format as the primitive format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 6 Share #14 Posted June 6 18 minutes ago, Einst_Stein said: Wish a camera to use square format as the primitive format. Hasselblad, V series! Can't get more primitve than film!! 😋 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted June 6 Author Share #15 Posted June 6 40 minutes ago, erl said: Hasselblad, V series! Can't get more primitve than film!! 😋 I have V, with both film and DB. It is too old for me, but SWC/M is till irreplaceable, though good for very wide only. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 6 Share #16 Posted June 6 Shot at yesterday's sunset. Hasselblad 2000FCW & Schneider 170-280mm Variogon + x2 extender shooting Kodak Gold 200. Hasselblad (V) & Leica constantly compete for my preferred camera. Square format is still my preferred shape for imaging. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421308-square-format-digital-ps/?do=findComment&comment=5813134'>More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted June 6 Author Share #17 Posted June 6 1 hour ago, erl said: Shot at yesterday's sunset. Hasselblad 2000FCW & Schneider 170-280mm Variogon + x2 extender shooting Kodak Gold 200. Hasselblad (V) & Leica constantly compete for my preferred camera. Square format is still my preferred shape for imaging. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I believe many here share the same fever! Square format, yes, film? probably in it's way down. Carrying film across security checking alone is painful enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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