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so M10R is the only version that have Black-paint edition (limited 2000), which brassing as the old-school way

How is your normal edition black chrome brassing/wear after long-time use? can you please post the photo?

I'm consider a m10 Black Chrome but if the aging process of it is not appealing I will choose silver chrome instead for the future !

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57 minutes ago, mottykytu said:

so M10R is the only version that have Black-paint edition (limited 2000), which brassing as the old-school way

How is your normal edition black chrome brassing/wear after long-time use? can you please post the photo?

I'm consider a m10 Black Chrome but if the aging process of it is not appealing I will choose silver chrome instead for the future !

If you google it and check the images you will get an example or two of the faded black chrome cameras. It’s funny as people buy the cameras for the wear but the majority I know of just trade them up in two or three years for the next super duper model. Like Al said, every generation of digital M has had a black paint on brass model and they tend to be the most popular, with the M10, only the R was blessed. The M10 though in any iteration is a fantastic rangefinder. You can’t go wrong. 

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28 minutes ago, costa43 said:

If you google it and check the images you will get an example or two of the faded black chrome cameras. It’s funny as people buy the cameras for the wear but the majority I know of just trade them up in two or three years for the next super duper model. Like Al said, every generation of digital M has had a black paint on brass model and they tend to be the most popular, with the M10, only the R was blessed. The M10 though in any iteration is a fantastic rangefinder. You can’t go wrong. 

The Leica M10-P Safari will also brass and even more quickly than the M10-R Black Paint. I shoot with the M10-R daily since it was released and there is no sign of brassing so far...only a bit on the dials.

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7 minutes ago, Fred Miranda said:

The Leica M10-P Safari will also brass and even more quickly than the M10-R Black Paint. I shoot with the M10-R daily since it was released and there is no sign of brassing so far...only a bit on the dials.

I’ve heard this from others too, my old M9-P was the same, very little brassing after extensive use. My black paint MP is already showing some wear after just a few months of ownership. Maybe Leica have purposefully used a less resilient paint on that model. 

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FWIW my near 30 year old M6, black chrome, shows no color finish wear.  It has signs of use and looks fine but does not (and I think will not) have any of that nice "brassing" type of changes.  I don't think any of the black chrome camera will "brass" like the paint versions.  Basically the black chrome versions will get a bit of a (slight) finish change where they are held/touched repeatedly and will get scratched (which on my camera does not show anything but a black scratch, i.e. no brass or silver color showing).

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6 hours ago, mottykytu said:

so M10R is the only version that have Black-paint edition (limited 2000), which brassing as the old-school way

How is your normal edition black chrome brassing/wear after long-time use? can you please post the photo?

I'm consider a m10 Black Chrome but if the aging process of it is not appealing I will choose silver chrome instead for the future !

Like all the M10 line black chromes, the M10-R doesn't brass. It sort of wears the black finish off revealing the underlying silver. It takes a lot of rubbing for this to happen and I've mostly seen it when the split rings rub against the top plate or people that let it bounce around in a bag for many years. Treat it nice, put some protectors over the lugs if you really care (available on Etsy), and honestly it won't show that much wear except maybe the sharp corners. It's much different from my black paint MP that shows scratches likes crazy and is brassing a bit after a few years of almost daily use. This M10-R is a little more of a garage queen, but has still gone on plenty of walks and spent plenty of time in a padded camera bag over the last ~4 years or so. I simply treat it nice and it stays this way.

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worth a thousand words.

M10-P.  It's the nickel plating over brass.

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1 hour ago, lekitr said:

worth a thousand words.

M10-P.  It's the nickel plating over brass.

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Wowww,it seem to be not my favourite aging process ! Don't know why they avoid Blackpaint and choose Black Chrome on m10 ?

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14 hours ago, Crem said:

Like all the M10 line black chromes, the M10-R doesn't brass. It sort of wears the black finish off revealing the underlying silver. It takes a lot of rubbing for this to happen and I've mostly seen it when the split rings rub against the top plate or people that let it bounce around in a bag for many years. Treat it nice, put some protectors over the lugs if you really care (available on Etsy), and honestly it won't show that much wear except maybe the sharp corners. It's much different from my black paint MP that shows scratches likes crazy and is brassing a bit after a few years of almost daily use. This M10-R is a little more of a garage queen, but has still gone on plenty of walks and spent plenty of time in a padded camera bag over the last ~4 years or so. I simply treat it nice and it stays this way.

The M10-R have a special edition call M10-R BlackPaint limited 2000 pieces (your is black chrome) and that thing brassing, just not as quickly as the previous blackpaint.

 

btw do you prefer this aging (Silver under black chrome) or the brassing of MP ?

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I'll admit I don't like to see finish wear on cameras or other "functional art" products. While I've always preferred silver chrome cameras for that reason, I also have and use quite a few black chrome Leicas, from Leicaflex SL2 and Leica CL & M5 of the 1970s through a number of R series and a couple M6 (one bought and used since 1985). Some do show sightly "less-black" edges, but most look like new. Now most have plastic bumpers to protect near the strap lugs, and on others I've use leather protectors - and a couple used parachute cord run through the lugs as a strap.

I doubt if I'll ever buy another Leica (I have enough!), but I wish they would bring back the plastic strap bumpers on the M models.

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10 minutes ago, TomB_tx said:

I'll admit I don't like to see finish wear on cameras or other "functional art" products. While I've always preferred silver chrome cameras for that reason, I also have and use quite a few black chrome Leicas, from Leicaflex SL2 and Leica CL & M5 of the 1970s through a number of R series and a couple M6 (one bought and used since 1985). Some do show sightly "less-black" edges, but most look like new. Now most have plastic bumpers to protect near the strap lugs, and on others I've use leather protectors - and a couple used parachute cord run through the lugs as a strap.

I doubt if I'll ever buy another Leica (I have enough!), but I wish they would bring back the plastic strap bumpers on the M models.

They still have it on M240 I think? It is not until M10 they remove the bumpers ?

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M10 black chrome and M9 black paint. Both used actively for about 7 years and 25.000 images.

 

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All my digital black chrome Ms up to the M10M seem to age like my black chrome M6 from the late 80s. As long as they don’t get a deeper scratch or dent they develop this grey-ish tint.


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Example: my Leica M Monchrom, some years ago
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On my M10-R black chrome, the finish is matt and after 3years, no brassing. However likely from hand oil or whatever dirt accumulation, there’s a seemingly grayish haze over the finish; so it’s more grayish black and not deep black. 

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I have both the M10 and the M6 TTL Classic. My one gripe with the M10 is that it doesn't have those small plastic protectors on each side of the camera to protect it from the rubbing of the camera strap.

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On 6/8/2025 at 3:56 PM, Leica_Buddy said:

I have both the M10 and the M6 TTL Classic. My one gripe with the M10 is that it doesn't have those small plastic protectors on each side of the camera to protect it from the rubbing of the camera strap.

 

Discussed…

 

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On 5/14/2025 at 8:32 PM, Crem said:

Like all the M10 line black chromes, the M10-R doesn't brass. It sort of wears the black finish off revealing the underlying silver. It takes a lot of rubbing for this to happen and I've mostly seen it when the split rings rub against the top plate or people that let it bounce around in a bag for many years. Treat it nice, put some protectors over the lugs if you really care (available on Etsy), and honestly it won't show that much wear except maybe the sharp corners. It's much different from my black paint MP that shows scratches likes crazy and is brassing a bit after a few years of almost daily use. This M10-R is a little more of a garage queen, but has still gone on plenty of walks and spent plenty of time in a padded camera bag over the last ~4 years or so. I simply treat it nice and it stays this way.

Where did you source the protective pads?

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4 hours ago, jplomley said:

Where did you source the protective pads?

Etsy. Search for “elongated strap protectors”.  I think they are sold by Deadcameras. I got mine many years ago. 

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On 5/14/2025 at 11:37 AM, Al Brown said:

There is also M11 black paint edition and M8.2 in black paint and several other digital Ms.

Black chrome will not brass.

My M10-D did show some brassing where the grey had worn through.  As in post #8.

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