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This should make for an interesting summer. I very much wonder how it will compare to the Summilux. Personally I'm hoping for improved rendering and aberration control vs the 1.4. The lens looks big, not absurdly big. Also I have absolutely no proof if this rumor is true or not.

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I'll have to check out the Nokton 35:1.2. I've never really dug into its rendering. My hope is a Leica 35:1.2 solves some of the issues I've had with the FLE (lots of green fringing and sometimes harsh backgrounds) yet maintains a reasonable size.

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11 minutes ago, Crem said:

I'll have to check out the Nokton 35:1.2. I've never really dug into its rendering. My hope is a Leica 35:1.2 solves some of the issues I've had with the FLE (lots of green fringing and sometimes harsh backgrounds) yet maintains a reasonable size.

Here is a good comparison with the 35mm Summilux FLE:

https://www.jaycassario.com/blog/2016/3/5/battle-of-the-35s-nokton-vs-summilux

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43 minutes ago, evikne said:

Here is a good comparison with the 35mm Summilux FLE:

https://www.jaycassario.com/blog/2016/3/5/battle-of-the-35s-nokton-vs-summilux

Looking over the photos I'd say that Nokton 1.2 is really impressive for the money. I definitely can see the rendering differences, but it not as dramatic as I expected. I guess this makes sense since f1.2 vs f1.4 isn't as dramatic as say f1.4 vs f0.95 with the 50 Noctilux.

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38 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said:

Could it be a 40mm Noctilux ? ( for the M11-V ) or 43mm ?

Dof. scale at f/16 infinity to 3m looks same as Voigtlander 40mm Nokton 1.2 ; the 35mm Summilux lens at f/16 dof..scale shows just over 2m.

 

that's a really interesting point! I can't imagine Leica ever making a 40mm in M, but who knows. If I had to guess, they probably updated the DOF scale for high resolution sensors?

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The difference between f/1.2 and f/1.4 is not likely to be enough to make any difference in my low-light shooting. I will, however, pay attention to other significant differences, in optical correction and performance. As it is, I use either the Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1,4 ZM, or the Re-Edition Steel Rim Summilux-M 35mm Classic, depending upon the optical correction or character I want. 

A 40mm or 43mm M lens would capture my attention. I have used 40mm and 45mm SLR lenses, and often shot a 24-70mm f/2.8 zoom at about 40mm.

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If it’s a 35 1.2, I’m not sure it’s a big reason for it over a 35 1.4 for only what - a third stop for many people.  

But I’ll wait and see what the mtf looks like and the samples with backgrounds.  I’m a fan of seeing Leica designers come out with new improvements.

i guess it pairs up well with the 75 1.25….. hopefully it is optically amazing.

 

I picked up a 50 0.95 because it’s 2+ stops over my summicrons.

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10 hours ago, FrozenInTime said:

Dof. scale at f/16 infinity to 3m looks same as Voigtlander 40mm Nokton 1.2 ; the 35mm Summilux lens at f/16 dof..scale shows just over 2m.

 

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Compare: https://leicarumors.com/2025/05/07/is-this-the-rumored-leica-noctilux-m-35mm-f-1-2-lens.aspx/

A round hood as shown in the rumor photo would be too tight for 35mm. The "lens" shown there also seems to be too short. 

The "photo" may have been manipulated to disguise the real thing. If so the question "is this the rumored Leica Noctilux" can only be answered by "No, it isn't". 

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10 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

Whatever it will be, it is going to be a modern, clinical render for sure (not bad at all if you ask me).

With such a wide aperture, I guess it will be less clinical than a 1.4 lens in one way or another. But that's a good thing, I think. 😉

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16 hours ago, evikne said:

I love the rendering of the Voigtländer Nokton 35mm f/1.2. If the Leica lens is anything like this, it will be very exciting.

That extra 1/2 stop of speed and corresponding dof, especially at mfd, gives a lot of creative potential.  Don't use my Voight version one much though because of weight and size issues.  

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i think this is much needed in the leica line-up. i suspect the rendering will very much be on the 'character' side wide open and with good edge to edge performance from f4 or 5.6. hopefully 0.5m MFD  

my CV 35mm f1.2 v3 is my 'go to' lens that additional half a stop gives a very unique look on 35mm. all the below were shot at f1.2

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4 hours ago, sometimesmaybe said:

i think this is much needed in the leica line-up. i suspect the rendering will very much be on the 'character' side wide open and with good edge to edge performance from f4 or 5.6. hopefully 0.5m MFD  

my CV 35mm f1.2 v3 is my 'go to' lens that additional half a stop gives a very unique look on 35mm. all the below were shot at f1.2

 

 

Absolutely beautiful work. I'm really liking what I see from this CV 35:1.2v3. I imagine Leica's going to have a difficult time outdoing it and keeping the lens compact.

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7 hours ago, sometimesmaybe said:

i think this is much needed in the leica line-up. i suspect the rendering will very much be on the 'character' side wide open and with good edge to edge performance from f4 or 5.6. hopefully 0.5m MFD  

my CV 35mm f1.2 v3 is my 'go to' lens that additional half a stop gives a very unique look on 35mm. all the below were shot at f1.2

 

 

Very nice indeed. I think I will pick up a copy of the one just released. It renders beautifully. Do you have any experience with the 40mm f1.2 by any chance?

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I was considering the new Nokton 40/1.2 II, since it got a new housing - lighter, more compact and less RF blockage than the version 1. Perhaps I should wait a little bit.

The size of the rumored Noctilux also to me looks more like a 40mm lens (as it can be designed more compact than a 35mm lens). On an EFV-M the "missing framelines" would not be an issue any more.

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1 hour ago, 3D-Kraft.com said:

I was considering the new Nokton 40/1.2 II, since it got a new housing - lighter, more compact and less RF blockage than the version 1. Perhaps I should wait a little bit.

The size of the rumored Noctilux also to me looks more like a 40mm lens (as it can be designed more compact than a 35mm lens). On an EFV-M the "missing framelines" would not be an issue any more.

I'm not sure Leica would restrict this lens by making it a 40mm just for an EVF M. I think it will be a 35mm Noctilux as it has been requested for many years and would be an exciting release for many. If they do release a 40mm in the future, maybe it will be a little less adventurous to begin with! Who knows for sure though, stranger things have happened!

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