PeterHatt Posted April 21 Share #1 Posted April 21 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I have sharpened this image at different levels & ask people to comment on which looks best, crucially stating what they are viewing on, for example phone iPad/tablet or computer. I’m trying to find out what works best for different monitor sizes left has more sharpening applied Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 21 by PeterHatt Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420666-post-sharpening-for-web-social-media-publishing/?do=findComment&comment=5789720'>More sharing options...
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250swb Posted April 21 Share #2 Posted April 21 On my monitor and iPad the top one looks over sharpened. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 21 Author Share #3 Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, 250swb said: On my monitor and iPad the top one looks over sharpened Thanks 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted April 21 Share #4 Posted April 21 On my MacBook Pro at normal viewing in the post, I think I can see the top one is more sharpened. Clicking on them to view at uploaded resolution it is more obvious, and very clear when I zoom in, where it looks over-sharpened. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 21 Author Share #5 Posted April 21 1 minute ago, LocalHero1953 said: On my MacBook Pro at normal viewing Thanks, as I thought too much is worse than not enough in this case 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoCruiser Posted April 21 Share #6 Posted April 21 vor 2 Stunden schrieb 250swb: On my monitor and iPad the top one looks over sharpened. On mine too, too much sharpening. MBP 14 M3 Retina Display MBP 16 M3 BenQ PD3200 4K Monitor I rarely use sharpening for web photos, except they are unsharp for whatever reason. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 21 Author Share #7 Posted April 21 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, PhotoCruiser said: On mine too, too much sharpening. Thanks, as this was taken in dark conditions it originally had a noise problem removing it with camera raw somehow made the image flat, by sharpening it (although too much) made it look more natural - I think my experiment failed 😂 Edited April 21 by PeterHatt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoCruiser Posted April 21 Share #8 Posted April 21 Generally spoken, how much sharpening depends on the kind of photo. I believe that the shaper looks ways to unnatural for such a "dreamy" scene like yours but i like to have tack sharp macro photos. You may do another try applying only half of the sharpening you used on the first photo. Not sure what editing software you use, the Lightroom Classic sliders under "Presence" "structure, clearness and remove haze (or what they are called in English" can do wonders for flat photos, but even with them they should be used with care to not create a unnatural looking photo. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 21 Author Share #9 Posted April 21 Chris ( PhotoCruiser ) has given me an idea. Sometime later I will post the image re edited from scratch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 21 Author Share #10 Posted April 21 Dreamy was the key word thanks Chris Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420666-post-sharpening-for-web-social-media-publishing/?do=findComment&comment=5789820'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 21 Share #11 Posted April 21 (edited) 6 hours ago, PeterHatt said: Dreamy was the key word thanks Chris Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That's after one too many. But going back to the beginning the option instead of sharpening is to use the 'Clarity' slider in ACR which will give more definition to the rocks and stones, but again it's something that can be overdone. So right click on the image in your browser and 'Open in Camera Raw', then 'Effects' and you'll find the Clarity slider which boost the micro contrast. Edited April 21 by 250swb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted April 21 Share #12 Posted April 21 Look for bright edges to dark objects. If you can see them at the expected viewing size and distance then you have sharpened too much or gone too far with the clarity slider. I can see it all along your horizon, especially in the first image. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 21 Share #13 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, 250swb said: That's after one too many. But going back to the beginning the option instead of sharpening is to use the 'Clarity' slider in ACR which will give more definition to the rocks and stones, but again it's something that can be overdone. So right click on the image in your browser and 'Open in Camera Raw', then 'Effects' and you'll find the Clarity slider which boost the micro contrast. Another option is the Texture slider. Depends on pic… https://scottkelby.com/which-one-is-better-lightrooms-texture-slider-or-the-clarity-slider/?amp=1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 21 Share #14 Posted April 21 This book may be slightly dated, but all the basics are there. Required reading for anybody interested in the subject, IMO. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 22 Author Share #15 Posted April 22 10 hours ago, Jeff S said: Another option is the Texture slider. Depends on pic… Thanks Jeff, good information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 22 Author Share #16 Posted April 22 9 hours ago, jaapv said: Required reading for anybody interested in the subject, IMO. Thanks jaapv, will look into this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 22 Author Share #17 Posted April 22 I should say, the image (in my opinion) looks excellent on my monitor at full resolution in photoshop format, it’s the conversion to jpg, downscaling & sharpen that I don’t like. In fact I’m always disappointed with the appearance of my photos at ‘social media’ size - I’m going to do a deep dive & try to gain knowledge why! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 22 Author Share #18 Posted April 22 (edited) Different technique, what do you think? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 22 by PeterHatt Posted wrong pic Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420666-post-sharpening-for-web-social-media-publishing/?do=findComment&comment=5790314'>More sharing options...
PeterHatt Posted April 22 Author Share #19 Posted April 22 (edited) Please remove Edited April 22 by PeterHatt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoCruiser Posted April 22 Share #20 Posted April 22 (edited) The last one looks good for me, not overly sharp and more light in the dark rocks. The ISO noise you mentioned can be corrected well using the AI Denoise function in Lightroom Classic. The dreamy one looks wired to me (like sitting there alone after a six pack of beer), i would have used more blur/haze and maybe a tad vignetting. Do you use Lightroom Classic, or only Photoshop? What versions? Editing a photo to look perfect on social media is virtually impossible as too many display options are involved. It may look good on a iPhone but bad on a old smartphone with a low res display, same for computer screens. I usually edit them to look nice on my high-res screens and feel sorry for people who use dino-tech devices with bad screens. People who like photography usually have high quality phones, tablets or computers and that is the target. Chris Edited April 22 by PhotoCruiser 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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