Stuart Richardson Posted March 19 Share #21 Â Posted March 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) 28mm equivalent is unappealing to me, but it's cool to see them doing something different. I hope it is successful enough that the consider doing a more normal lens version. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted March 19 Share #22 Â Posted March 19 (edited) 'Competitor?' - I think we're arguing about different meanings of the word. I'm sure this camera is intended to be a competitor to the Q3 in the sense of targeting the same people with similar amounts of money looking for a high class, versatile point and shoot. In simple spec terms (which count for a lot for people with more money than photographic awareness) it has a bigger sensor and more pixels, but loses out in aperture and stabilisation, and has no red dot. Whether it succeeds in being a competitor is another matter, depending on all the factors listed by others here. Edited March 19 by LocalHero1953 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liggy Posted March 19 Share #23  Posted March 19 I'm still a bit of a Fuji fanboy but this one is a pass for me.  F4 - not nearly fast enough for the way I like to shoot.  I had a 50R and missed IBIS.  Part of that was the shutter mechanism that was more of a *thunk* than a click.  The new one is supposed to be a leaf shutter which will be nice.  It won't be replacing my GFX100S or the Q2R anytime soon.  1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 19 Share #24  Posted March 19 The Leica got a panning on the forum for the slow XVario*, but by all accounts it sold well.  * Partly because it was misguidedly marketed as a highly anticipated "mini M". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted March 19 Share #25  Posted March 19 I have had the first fuji x100, and some of its successors. It was a great cam, but just a little bit too small for me. I use both hands for photographing, in order to have more stability. The xpro’s were much better for that, but I also had the gfx50r. Great, but too big for daily usage. The Q is the best, for me, regarding size for daily usage. It sits between the x and gfx. Like a M. I will not consider this new camera of fuji as a competitor of the Q. A new xpro could be though.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 20 Share #26  Posted March 20 (edited) New pictures of the camera appeared on fujirumors. It looks like the lens of the camera is retractable. The camera looks very compact and visually attractive. For daytime shooting on the street f4 is more than enough, since almost all famous street photographers use f8-f16. In the evening, of course, f4 will be insufficient without a stabilizer. It will be interesting to see the first tests of the lens. I don't like the lens in the X100 because of the insufficient micro contrast. Maybe the new camera will be different. Edited March 20 by Smogg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 20 Share #27 Â Posted March 20 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 minute ago, Smogg said: Â Edited March 20 by Smogg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 20 Share #28  Posted March 20 vor 17 Stunden schrieb Smogg: In the X100V, stabilization is not a necessity, as the sensor does not have a very high resolution compared to medium format. That‘s a myth. If there is any blur by shaking, you‘ll see it on a very low resolving sensor. Btw: Compare the sensor size of the X100V with the GFX 100 and count the MP… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 20 Share #29 Â Posted March 20 The front face of new Fuji is very bland, it looks like a cheap Instax camera, an unintended stealth feature ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 20 Share #30  Posted March 20  20 hours ago, bobtodrick said: IMO it will appeal to landscape photographers and such, but at F4 it would definitely suffer for street, portraiture or low light. DOF wise on such sensor size, it is something like f2.8, I guess. And not all of us lives by cliches. I do take landscapes at f1.4 sometimes (because at infinity even f1.4 DOF is fine), I see no reason for f2 on the street, portraits are portraits to me if all is in focus, not just one eye in focus "portraits". And I had no issues with 25/4 lens indoors on 400 film @1600. Anyway, those old dMF sensors are not good for high ISO. They are superior on low ISO. Unique rendering, where IQ is real Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 20 Share #31  Posted March 20 It is only competitor by been in the same price range. But to me Fuji dMF sensors are giant M43. And to me 4:3 just sucks. Cropping such large sensor to 3:2 sucks even more. Nor FujiFilm dMF outdated sensors any good on even moderately high ISO. Just like M43. I don't mind low ISO only cameras, I have no problems with M-E 220. But I don't see any reason for camera with such old sensor to be this much. Under 4K Euro is something more realistic for re-usage of same old components and no IBIS.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 20 Share #32 Â Posted March 20 I watched the GFX100RF presentation and I love the ergonomics. This is how crop mode should have been implemented in Q3. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexx Posted March 20 Share #33  Posted March 20 (edited) Also watched the event and started to like it. Might give it a try if it’s available for one of my upcoming trips.  I miss my Mamiya 6MF RF MF camera. Used to be the camera I took on trips with me with the 50/4 lens. I currently have Q3 so would be an interesting comparison.  It just appeared for pre-order at WEX UK for £4,699 - that’s very good price. Edited March 20 by hexx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 20 Share #34  Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, hexx said: Also watched the event and started to like it. Might give it a try if it’s available for one of my upcoming trips.  I miss my Mamiya 6MF RF MF camera. Used to be the camera I took on trips with me with the 50/4 lens. I currently have Q3 so would be an interesting comparison.  It just appeared for pre-order at WEX UK for £4,699 - that’s very good price. I will definitely try this camera too and compare the experience with the M11, Q3 43 and X2D. It seems I was wrong when I wrote that there would be no queues for this camera. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CptSlevin Posted March 20 Share #36 Â Posted March 20 Hot garbage with unstabilized 100mp and slow f 4.0 lens for 5k. GL for this DOA camera to compete with Q3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptSlevin Posted March 20 Share #37 Â Posted March 20 33 minutes ago, Smogg said: I watched the GFX100RF presentation and I love the ergonomics. This is how crop mode should have been implemented in Q3. Q3 has the most simplistic and minimalistic approach in design, this is abomination with a lot of dials, knobs and levers. Thank God Q3 is what it is 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 20 Share #38 Â Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, CptSlevin said: Q3 has the most simplistic and minimalistic approach in design, this is abomination with a lot of dials, knobs and levers. Thank God Q3 is what it is I don't need a fast lens, I take 99 percent of my shots at f8-f11. Unfortunately, I can't get used to the Q3 43 yet, the controls are inconvenient for me, the quality of the EVF and LCD doesn't suit me, so I use it very rarely. My main camera is the M11-P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted March 20 Share #39  Posted March 20 25 minutes ago, CptSlevin said: Q3 has the most simplistic and minimalistic approach in design, this is abomination with a lot of dials, knobs and levers. Thank God Q3 is what it is Millions of people use Canon, Sony, Fuji, Nikon cameras without any problem. Have you considered that perhaps it’s the other way around, i.e. that Leica users are the ones that need a simpler interface to be able to operate a camera? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted March 20 Share #40  Posted March 20 I just watched the presentation. Not a camera for me, I think the Q 43, or even the 28, is the best choice for me, because I think it’s more svelte and versatile, but this new Fuji sure looks like an interesting camera. Glad it exists, competition is always good for the end customers 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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