FrozenInTime Posted March 14 Share #121 Posted March 14 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) f/1.4 v4 11714 Big white speedbird Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The new lens coatings handle lights well. Edited March 14 by FrozenInTime 16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The new lens coatings handle lights well. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5771988'>More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted March 14 Share #122 Posted March 14 f/1.4 v4 11714 Believe it or not, an essential item for aircraft maintanence : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5771996'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 15 Share #123 Posted March 15 Flare is minimal when shooting into the setting sun ( even with variable ND ) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5772117'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 15 Share #124 Posted March 15 Near minimum focus f/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5772120'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 15 Share #125 Posted March 15 Here a bad photo, i.e. how not to use this lens, where the wide open foreground bokeh and corner smearing add up to an ugly rendering. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5772174'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted March 15 Share #126 Posted March 15 44 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Here a bad photo, i.e. how not to use this lens, where the wide open foreground bokeh and corner smearing add up to an ugly rendering. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! A little crop bottom and right will sort it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted March 15 Share #127 Posted March 15 Advertisement (gone after registration) 45 minutes ago, pedaes said: A little crop bottom and right will sort it. Or perhaps stopping down a little (too late now of course). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 15 Share #128 Posted March 15 @pedaes @evikne you are both right - crop or stop down always technically better results. Looking through old brochures Leica always described the Summilux as a high-speed reportage lens; modern use and presentation changes expectations. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I was seeing this reformulated lens required more deliberate use on film than its classic predecessors, so I was going out of my way to take images that would show it warts and all. No crop shows the worst case, and how much light bleed propagates beyond the frame for those who want an unmasked non-digital look. I've probably done enough of this, so normal programming can resume. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I was seeing this reformulated lens required more deliberate use on film than its classic predecessors, so I was going out of my way to take images that would show it warts and all. No crop shows the worst case, and how much light bleed propagates beyond the frame for those who want an unmasked non-digital look. I've probably done enough of this, so normal programming can resume. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5772217'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 16 Share #129 Posted March 16 De Havilland Dragon Rapide and Heron : Just noticed in this one that the field curvature makes the far behind plane of focus corners sharper Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5772510'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 16 Share #130 Posted March 16 35 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: De Havilland Dragon Rapide and Heron : Just noticed in this one that the field curvature makes the far behind plane of focus corners sharper Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Takes me back to my school days in Edinburgh, when occasionally I used to fly to Turnhouse (Edinburgh) from Dalcross (Inverness) on a DH86. The Heron or sometimes a DC3 (BEA Pioneer) seemed very modern in comparison. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 16 Share #131 Posted March 16 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: Takes me back to my school days in Edinburgh, when occasionally I used to fly to Turnhouse (Edinburgh) from Dalcross (Inverness) on a DH86. The Heron or sometimes a DC3 (BEA Pioneer) seemed very modern in comparison. Wilson My dad would also nostalgically recall flying around the highlands and islands, working for the HIDB, on the Dragon Rapide ... on his way to strike fear into the locals - the auditors are coming. Edited March 16 by FrozenInTime 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 27 Share #132 Posted March 27 Silvanus at f/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5777579'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 27 Share #133 Posted March 27 Same at f/4 Sharper foreground and far less film gate bleed. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5777580'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 27 Share #134 Posted March 27 (edited) f/1.4 unusual gate bleed effect at top of frame Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 27 by FrozenInTime 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5777581'>More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted March 28 Share #135 Posted March 28 On 2/26/2025 at 4:46 AM, Wipeout said: Here is another example of the "glow' Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi...I am just a reader of M lens threads...and some of descriptions of the new 50mm lens are 'strange' to me. Point in case: not being sharp @ wide open is described as a 'glow'?' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 28 Share #136 Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, Genoweffa said: Point in case: not being sharp @ wide open is described as a 'glow'?' No, it's not. (I won't attempt to explain "glow" because it'll only start an argument and there are plenty of threads on the forum that cover what people think glow is.) Pete. 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted March 28 Share #137 Posted March 28 24 minutes ago, farnz said: No, it's not. (I won't attempt to explain "glow" because it'll only start an argument and there are plenty of threads on the forum that cover what people think glow is.) Pete. We all the due respect, so is this lens sharp @ wide open or not ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 28 Share #138 Posted March 28 36 minutes ago, Genoweffa said: We all the due respect, so is this lens sharp @ wide open or not ? This is not a non-answer but it depends what you mean by "sharp". There is no measurable quality of "sharpness" so it's a subjective quality and will vary depending on the person looking at a picture. The quality that is called "sharpness" is a combination of various things such as resolution (detail separation), contrast (bright/dark), acutance, and clarity and is affected by under- or overexposure. The picture of the daffodils is unfortunately a little underexposed so it's not clear where the plane of focus lies although it looks to be at the closest edge of the yellow 'trumpet' in the middle. In my experience of using it, the lens easily has enough contrast and resolution, which is what Leica lens designers strive for but which produces a gentler gradient between in-focus and out of focus and between bright and dark objects (often called micro-contrast). On the other hand Zeiss's lens designers strove to maximise these gradients to produce harsher acutance presumably because that's what Zeiss believed its customers wanted. Leica's customers apparently preferred gentler transitions, which means there's a choice. All I can say about the 'retro' 50/1.4 Summilux pre-asph v4 is that is sufficiently 'sharp' for my requirements but perhaps not as 'eye-cuttingly sharp' as the 50/1.4 Summilux asph v2. I hope the above helps. Pete. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted March 28 Share #139 Posted March 28 59 minutes ago, Genoweffa said: We all the due respect, so is this lens sharp @ wide open or not ? The samples and MTF curves show that it is sufficiently* sharp and contrasty in the centre, but the corners suffer a lot from field curvature and other flaws, so you need to manage the image content or stop down a lot. * I have only tested on B&W film; if you want 60 Mpixels resolution corner - corner, this is likely not your lens. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted March 28 Share #140 Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: The samples and MTF curves show that it is sufficiently* sharp and contrasty in the centre, but the corners suffer a lot from field curvature and other flaws, so you need to manage the image content or stop down a lot. * I have only tested on B&W film; if you want 60 Mpixels resolution corner - corner, this is likely not your lens. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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