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Minigill, I empathise with your situation, though surprised you gave up on the Q3/43APO

 

3 years ago I walked into my dealer, ready to purchase an M11, but after some handling, I walked out with a new M10-R

I enjoy having to do very little PC/LR adjustments to my M10-R images, usually cropping and the occasional brightness/contrast adjusting, and that's it.

 

It's quite relaxing to know that I I don't have to stress about magenta, or SD/IM not retaining images, or impending freezes at the most inconvenient moment for an M owner.

 

To me ( I know many will aggressively disagree)    :     holistically an M10-R was my upgrade from the M11

 

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33 minutes ago, dugby said:

Minigill, I empathise with your situation, though surprised you gave up on the Q3/43APO

 

3 years ago I walked into my dealer, ready to purchase an M11, but after some handling, I walked out with a new M10-R

I enjoy having to do very little PC/LR adjustments to my M10-R images, usually cropping and the occasional brightness/contrast adjusting, and that's it.

 

It's quite relaxing to know that I I don't have to stress about magenta, or SD/IM not retaining images, or impending freezes at the most inconvenient moment for an M owner.

 

To me ( I know many will aggressively disagree)    :     holistically an M10-R was my upgrade from the M11

 

Finances had to give up the Q3 twins, although I loved the Q3, not so much the 43, I still ended up wanting to take two camera's out and faff around changing, and after picking an M up for the first time a few weeks ago, got hooked on the slippery slope!

Q3's I just kinda pointed and shoot and a few, well it focused on something else.  Beautiful camera's though.  Hindsight, yep, great thing, should have kept the original Q, as back up, I prefer its rendering of pictures to the 3's, EVF was better on the Q3's though !  Anyway back to dilema dot.com!

 

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On 2/9/2025 at 10:17 AM, Minigill said:

Probably a bit long winded question or more like therapy needed 🥲

 

Thoughts, as I have no back up camera, not jacking it totally in !  Do I take a hit and go for a different M without Magenta cast?  I loathe to buy any lens as I am not enjoying viewing pics as all I see is Magenta.

Any suggestions appreciated, even hints on correction in C1, camera's.  No discussion on lenses required, I have thoughts on those sorted.

Thankyou for getting this far, lady in distress welcomes comments !

Edit, only shoot in RAW and daylight WB (which my instructor at Leica Acadamie recommended for daytime).

Set WB in camera - use an Expodisc - your WB will be spot on every time. Takes seconds and completely solves the issue.

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5 hours ago, Ne314satel said:

Just shoot and convert to b/w. Or you need to correct the color in the editor. M11 has this problem with purple. No manual white balance will fix it.

That's incorrect - In camera custom WB with a calibrated transmission target (Expodisc) fixes it 100%, every time.

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4 minutes ago, CDodkin said:

That's incorrect - In camera custom WB with a calibrated transmission target (Expodisc) fixes it 100%, every time.

All you have to do is run to the object of the photo, take a picture in the direction of your former position, then return to it again and then you have Blackjack😂

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4 hours ago, Smogg said:

All you have to do is run to the object of the photo, take a picture in the direction of your former position, then return to it again and then you have Blackjack😂

LOL - running to and from the subject position is optional, and not recommended for landscape photography! 🤣

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5 hours ago, Smogg said:

All you have to do is run to the object of the photo, take a picture in the direction of your former position, then return to it again and then you have Blackjack😂

Humor, I know... but to bring the discussion back to real life 1) you don't 'take a picture' to set custom white balance on the M11; and 2) pointing the camera at the light source is often (usually?) all that is required when shooting outdoors.   I find the WB to be adequate that once set to the light source -- often the sky behind me -- I can walk around and take pics from various angle without changing the WB again as long as I'm shooting in the same general direction.

I either do that or set the camera to daylight and handle WB in post depending upon the situation.

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8 hours ago, CDodkin said:

That's incorrect - In camera custom WB with a calibrated transmission target (Expodisc) fixes it 100%, every time.

My favorite thing to do in street photography is to hang test targets on people walking down the street. Seriously, Leica made a big mistake in the m11. Even the color temperature is not accurate. On x2d it absolutely corresponds to the values of external devices.

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38 minutes ago, Ne314satel said:

My favorite thing to do in street photography is to hang test targets on people walking down the street. Seriously, Leica made a big mistake in the m11. Even the color temperature is not accurate. On x2d it absolutely corresponds to the values of external devices.

Fortunately you will never have to do that, if you are able to read/comprehend the simple instructions I have previously posted on setting custom WB in camera.

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37 minutes ago, Ne314satel said:

My favorite thing to do in street photography is to hang test targets on people walking down the street. Seriously, Leica made a big mistake in the m11. Even the color temperature is not accurate. On x2d it absolutely corresponds to the values of external devices.

I agree in general, but the comparison is not quite correct. The X2D should still be considered upper premium, while the M11/SL3/Q3 are simply premium. Hasselblad is much more concerned with color science, so they have paid more attention to correct white balance. The differences between them are in the attention to detail, even in the packaging or charger. Just look at the quality and compare the size of the dual chargers. 

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2 hours ago, Smogg said:

I agree in general, but the comparison is not quite correct. The X2D should still be considered upper premium, while the M11/SL3/Q3 are simply premium. Hasselblad is much more concerned with color science, so they have paid more attention to correct white balance. The differences between them are in the attention to detail, even in the packaging or charger. Just look at the quality and compare the size of the dual chargers. 

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And not to mention Leica's charger has those obnoxious wings on the side of the power plug meaning it doesn't play nice when plugged into power boards. I've had to snap those off so I can have all my chargers plugged in.

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3 hours ago, Stevejack said:

And not to mention Leica's charger has those obnoxious wings on the side of the power plug meaning it doesn't play nice when plugged into power boards. I've had to snap those off so I can have all my chargers plugged in.

Dual charging has a USB-C connector.

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It was almost a missed opportunity to add a USB port to the battery.

the M11 charger is small.

 

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I have a Sony a7r5 setup that I use for birds, wildlife, general terrible weather conditions etc. The photos I get from the Sony also has that magenta presence to my eye so I started to think maybe its a sensor issue. No scientific accuracy here, just a thought. Maybe I started seeing magenta everywhere as well like the op. It doesn't bother me though, very easy fix in Lightroom. 

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39 minutes ago, mekener said:

I have a Sony a7r5 setup that I use for birds, wildlife, general terrible weather conditions etc. The photos I get from the Sony also has that magenta presence to my eye so I started to think maybe its a sensor issue. No scientific accuracy here, just a thought. Maybe I started seeing magenta everywhere as well like the op. It doesn't bother me though, very easy fix in Lightroom. 

Sl3 and Q3 do not have such problems

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Où est Magenta ?

Leica M11 Summilux-M 35MM 1.4

Use DXO and not Adobe or Camera Raw ..

That's all folks !

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vor 23 Stunden schrieb Pix.View:

Use DXO and not Adobe or Camera Raw ..

That's all folks !

 

DXO develops individual profiles for all camera models. Consequently, DXO developed images do not show the original color rendering of a camera but the DXO lab taste. 

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