Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #41 Posted February 1 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 minutes ago, T25UFO said: Er, no it will only be a good investment when you realise a return, and that means when you sell it. I have read your posts here - it seems you are very happy with the camera and have no intention of selling it. Good for you. Investments, good or bad, are measured by yield and any asset that does not produce a yield cannot be classed as an investment until the asset is sold. Any value you place on the asset prior to selling is simply speculation. The value of investment will be measured, good or bad, as the difference between purchased price and sale price, after adjusting for inflation in the intervening period. Apologies for such a basic lesson . . . . The investment I meant has nothing to do with financial gain…💵 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T25UFO Posted February 1 Share #42 Posted February 1 24 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: The investment I meant has nothing to do with financial gain…💵 OK . . . I give . . . we are obviously on a different planet 😳 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #43 Posted February 1 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: The investment I meant has nothing to do with financial gain…💵 My comment was only on the MD 262 that I own, showing how I invested in a camera that gave me such a pleasurable investment. But on the other side of the camera, I mean coin, I’ve shot over a year with the camera and it’s worth more today than what I paid for it…📷💵🥸 Edited February 1 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #44 Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, T25UFO said: OK . . . I give . . . we are obviously on a different planet 😳 Believe me, we’re on the same planet, I mean page…🌎📜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #45 Posted February 1 50 minutes ago, Al Brown said: This lens is not from the 60s. It is recent. The one from the 60s costs waaaaay less used and is not available in 100 units only. And this lens was 15,000 dollars new, not 1,000 dollars. The late 1960s thousand dollars would have the purchase power of 10K today. Let’s see… $83,500-$15,000 seems like a good investment still…💵 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #46 Posted February 1 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Al Brown said: This lens is not from the 60s. It is recent. The one from the 60s costs waaaaay less used and is not available in 100 units only. And this lens was 15,000 dollars new, not 1,000 dollars. The late 1960s thousand dollars would have the purchase power of 10K Edited February 1 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #47 Posted February 1 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry it was this lens…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418886-leica-m60-for-investment-only/?do=findComment&comment=5749778'>More sharing options...
Deeetona Posted February 1 Share #48 Posted February 1 it is only who finds "Investment" topics about consumer goods tedious? buy stuff you like and enjoy it and thats it... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #49 Posted February 1 Or this one that is a good investment…💵 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418886-leica-m60-for-investment-only/?do=findComment&comment=5749782'>More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted February 1 Share #50 Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: Let’s see… $83,500-$15,000 seems like a good investment still…💵 Well Anthony, this is why I'm confused. I try to help you with some basic economics, how to value investments. Then you say, post 44, this thread has nothing to do with financial gain. Fair enough. But then there are several posts [by you] all pointing out the financial gains to be had by acquiring Leica product. I do appreciate that you really love the black and red combination [someone has to] and I'd love to see some real photos - I mean not photos of the camera. I also wish you well in your investment decisions. Buy shares in Apple of Tesla - can be a rough ride at times, but what is life without a little risk 🙂 and PLEASE post some real photos. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 1 Share #51 Posted February 1 The Noctilux lenses you are showing were not made available to members of 'the general public'. The Chrome ASPH was offered only to existing 'preferred' Leica customers. The Black one was specially made for members of the Leica Historical Society of America (hence 'LHSA Edition'). Black Chrome and Black Paint 50mm f1.2 Noctilux lenses, however, are currently available from stock, brand new, and cost £6,700 and £7,200 respectively. On the second-hand market they go for between c. £4,300 and £5,000 so neither would appear to be valued as an investment......as yet. The Black Paint 50mm Summicron is a very different matter. It was made in very small numbers which is why collectors will pay silly money for them. Had anyone bought one new and hung on to it the owner would be either approaching their nineties or, most likely, already there. Do you think you will still be using your M-D in 70 years time? Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeetona Posted February 1 Share #52 Posted February 1 Anything can be an "investment" - but not necessarily a profitable one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #53 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, T25UFO said: Well Anthony, this is why I'm confused. I try to help you with some basic economics, how to value investments. Then you say, post 44, this thread has nothing to do with financial gain. Fair enough. But then there are several posts [by you] all pointing out the financial gains to be had by acquiring Leica product. I do appreciate that you really love the black and red combination [someone has to] and I'd love to see some real photos - I mean not photos of the camera. I also wish you well in your investment decisions. Buy shares in Apple of Tesla - can be a rough ride at times, but what is life without a little risk 🙂 and PLEASE post some real photos. Who started this thread anyway…🥸 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418886-leica-m60-for-investment-only/?do=findComment&comment=5749845'>More sharing options...
Deeetona Posted February 1 Share #54 Posted February 1 I am taking the bold guess that most photographers are not people I would ask about "investments". 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #55 Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Deeetona said: I am taking the bold guess that most photographers are not people I would ask about "investments". I’m with you on that…🤓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #56 Posted February 1 31 minutes ago, Al Brown said: These lenses are not digital M bodies we are discussing. A lot of Leica stuff is AWESOME as an investment, especially from the older days, just not digital bodies. They’re still amazing for digital cameras and I use the Summicron Rigid with the MD 262…📷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted February 1 Share #57 Posted February 1 21 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: Who started this thread anyway…🥸 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Composition quite nice, not sharp but that could be the low resolution upload. My eye keeps getting drawn to the telegraph lines so I would remove them. Maybe a little more detail in the shadows on the right and perhaps lift the sky, but otherwise quite nice. Apologies for messing around with your photo 🙂 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #58 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, T25UFO said: Well Anthony, this is why I'm confused. I try to help you with some basic economics, how to value investments. Then you say, post 44, this thread has nothing to do with financial gain. Fair enough. But then there are several posts [by you] all pointing out the financial gains to be had by acquiring Leica product. I do appreciate that you really love the black and red combination [someone has to] and I'd love to see some real photos - I mean not photos of the camera. I also wish you well in your investment decisions. Buy shares in Apple of Tesla - can be a rough ride at times, but what is life without a little risk 🙂 and PLEASE post some real photos. There are those, Thorsten Overgaard as an example, that do. My thoughts on this was a M60 was too beautiful to use every day and just to keep it as an investment. It did get out of control some…😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 1 Share #59 Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: They’re still amazing for digital cameras and I use the Summicron Rigid with the MD 262…📷 Really? Do you, by any remote chance, have a photograph showing the pairing?......😸...... I'm in complete agreement with the notion that from an artistic / creative perspective the M-D is rewarding like no other digital camera I've even used so if that comes under your understanding / definition of counting as an 'Investment' then, as already mentioned at the start of post #41, that's perfectly fine by me. Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted February 1 Author Share #60 Posted February 1 1 minute ago, pippy said: Really? Do you, by any remote chance, have a photograph showing the pairing?......😸...... I'm in complete agreement with the notion that from an artistic / creative perspective the M-D is rewarding like no other digital camera I've even used so if that comes under your understanding / definition of counting as an 'Investment' then, as already mentioned at the start of post #41, that's perfectly fine by me. Philip. This is my only lens I use with the MD 262…📷 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418886-leica-m60-for-investment-only/?do=findComment&comment=5749868'>More sharing options...
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