Objektiv-Kombination für Motorradreise / Lens combination for motorbike travel

[derhalbhartemann]

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A question for the Leica M community: I own a 24mm, a 35mm, a 50mm and a 135mm lens. I would like to take three lenses with me on my motorbike trip. The aim is to document the tour photographically. Which lens combination would you choose?

 

Eine Frage an die Leica-M-Gemeinde: Ich besitze ein 24mm, ein 35mm, ein 50mm und ein 135mm Objektiv. Drei Objektive möchte ich auf meine Motorradreise mitnehmen. Das Ziel ist die Tour fotografisch zu Dokumentieren. Für welche Objektiv-Kombimation würdet ihr euch entscheiden?

[HuntingSand]

Wohin soll die Reise denn gehen? In die Berge? Entlang der Kueste? Kulinarisch in die Weinberge?

[ktmrider2]

Which is your favorite focal length?  As much as I try I never really get on with either the 24 or 21 and think I could be happy traveling with just a 35 or 50 depending on my mood when I am selecting camera equipment.  I tend to travel with a 35/90 combo.  In your case I would take 24 and 135 and leave either the 35 or 50 at home.  I would argue that 35 and 50 are pretty close so you don’t need both.  The 24 can be cropped to 35 and the 50 can be cropped from 35.  So, 24/35/135 or 24/50/135.  Don’t think you will miss any photos with one combo over the other.

[derhalbhartemann]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb HuntingSand:

Wohin soll die Reise denn gehen? In die Berge? Entlang der Kueste? Kulinarisch in die Weinberge?

Danke der Nachfrage. Sardinien im Frühjahr mit zwei altertümlich wirkenden Royal Enfield Classic. Das heisst: Porträt (Nahe, Halbnahe), Foodporn(Grossaufnahme), Mensch mit Motorrad (Totale oder Halbtotale), Landschaft mit Meer, Bergen, Strassen, Architektur (alle Einstellgrössen), Streetfotografie (Totale oder Halbtotale). Halt Reisefotografie in einer vielfältigen Landschaft und das bedeutet irgendwie alles. 😊

[derhalbhartemann]

vor 4 Stunden schrieb ktmrider2:

Which is your favorite focal length?  As much as I try I never really get on with either the 24 or 21 and think I could be happy traveling with just a 35 or 50 depending on my mood when I am selecting camera equipment.  I tend to travel with a 35/90 combo.  In your case I would take 24 and 135 and leave either the 35 or 50 at home.  I would argue that 35 and 50 are pretty close so you don’t need both.  The 24 can be cropped to 35 and the 50 can be cropped from 35.  So, 24/35/135 or 24/50/135.  Don’t think you will miss any photos with one combo over the other.

Thank you for your answer. It is difficult to distinguish between the two combinations 24 - 35 - 135 and 24 - 50 - 135. 24 and 35 mm are already close to each other. 24 and 50 would make more sense. But 50 mm offers less depth of field for the genre than the 35 mm and when travelling I like to show the subject in the context of the surroundings. I don't have a focal length that I generally favour. It always depends on the context and that is very diverse when travelling. 

[Deeetona]

Or buy a Tri Elmar!

[derhalbhartemann]

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vor 2 Minuten schrieb Deeetona:

Or buy a Tri Elmar!

😀

[jankap]

Ich nehme auf Reisen ein sehr weiten und einen 50mm mit. Meine Weitwinkels sind groß und schwer: R 15mm f/2.8 oder Canon 24mm f/1.4.

Der Nutzen eines Fernobjektivs auf Reisen geht bei mir gegen null. Heutzutage ist auch stark croppen kein Problem mehr.

[ktmrider2]

Well, the 24 would certainly show context, perhaps too much.  Honestly, there are days when the 35 is on the camera and days when the 50 is on the camera.  For me it depends on which way the wind is blowing and/or the phase of the moon.  There is no correct answer and there is no wrong answer.  And with any fixed focal length, you need to use your feet.

I have a hard time imagining a situation where carrying 24/50 combo would prevent you from getting a photograph if you were carrying a 24/35 combo instead.  When I carry three lenses, it tends to be a 35/50/90 which is the CLASSIC photojournalism combo (my original training in photography).  And the frame lines of Leicas best camera, the M2.

I do tons of touring by motorcycle (own four of them).  Usually, it is with a 35/90 combo as I have said.  Leica lenses are small so you could carry all four if push came to shove.  I have done trips with only one lens along, either 35 or 50 and enjoyed it.  No one says we have to use full frame unless you are shooting slides back in the olden days.

Or leave both 35 and 50 at home and buy a 40 which would be a lot cheaper than a Tri Elmer!

 

Edited January 12 by ktmrider2

[HuntingSand]

vor 23 Stunden schrieb derhalbhartemann:

Danke der Nachfrage. Sardinien im Frühjahr mit zwei altertümlich wirkenden Royal Enfield Classic. Das heisst: Porträt (Nahe, Halbnahe), Foodporn(Grossaufnahme), Mensch mit Motorrad (Totale oder Halbtotale), Landschaft mit Meer, Bergen, Strassen, Architektur (alle Einstellgrössen), Streetfotografie (Totale oder Halbtotale). Halt Reisefotografie in einer vielfältigen Landschaft und das bedeutet irgendwie alles. 😊

Ich wuerde evtl. 24-35-50 mitnehmen, und dazu noch sowas wie eine von den kleinen Sony RX100 Dingern in die Jackentasche stecken, die haben einen sehr nuetzlichen Zoombereich und mittlerweile auch recht gute IQ. Selbiges Geraet moeglichst vibrationsfrei verfrachten, aber das versteht sich von selbst. Schoenes Reiseziel, Sardinien (kenne es selber nicht, dafuer aber Sizilien).

[osaf]

Three lenses are a lot for a motorbike trip. But if you can carry three lenses, there should be space for four lenses, too. 😉

At the end of the day it depends on your personal style of making photos. Personally I would go for the 24 + 50, maybe 35 only.

[derhalbhartemann]

vor 21 Stunden schrieb ktmrider2:

Well, the 24 would certainly show context, perhaps too much.  Honestly, there are days when the 35 is on the camera and days when the 50 is on the camera.  For me it depends on which way the wind is blowing and/or the phase of the moon.  There is no correct answer and there is no wrong answer.  And with any fixed focal length, you need to use your feet.

I have a hard time imagining a situation where carrying 24/50 combo would prevent you from getting a photograph if you were carrying a 24/35 combo instead.  When I carry three lenses, it tends to be a 35/50/90 which is the CLASSIC photojournalism combo (my original training in photography).  And the frame lines of Leicas best camera, the M2.

I do tons of touring by motorcycle (own four of them).  Usually, it is with a 35/90 combo as I have said.  Leica lenses are small so you could carry all four if push came to shove.  I have done trips with only one lens along, either 35 or 50 and enjoyed it.  No one says we have to use full frame unless you are shooting slides back in the olden days.

Or leave both 35 and 50 at home and buy a 40 which would be a lot cheaper than a Tri Elmer!

 

Thanks for the feedback 35/90 is a good combination. At the moment I'm leaning towards 24/50/135. That's close to your recommendation 35/50/90. I don't have a 90mm and the 24mm is more challenging than 35mm.

[derhalbhartemann]

vor einer Stunde schrieb HuntingSand:

Ich wuerde evtl. 24-35-50 mitnehmen, und dazu noch sowas wie eine von den kleinen Sony RX100 Dingern in die Jackentasche stecken, die haben einen sehr nuetzlichen Zoombereich und mittlerweile auch recht gute IQ. Selbiges Geraet moeglichst vibrationsfrei verfrachten, aber das versteht sich von selbst. Schoenes Reiseziel, Sardinien (kenne es selber nicht, dafuer aber Sizilien).

Ja, eine Leica auf einem rüttelnden Motorrad wie der Royal Enfield Classic zu Transportieren ist eine echte Herausforderung. Ich werde die Sachen in einer Peak-Design-Tasche auf dem Rücken tragen. Ist das 35 nicht zu nahe an dem 50mm? Die kleine Sony ist gut. Ich habe damit eine ganze Motorradreise durch Schottland bestritten. Aber die Leica macht deutlich mehr Spass. Bei meiner letzten Hollandreise hatte ich beide dabei und am Ende nur die Leica-Fotos verwendet.

[derhalbhartemann]

vor einer Stunde schrieb osaf:

Three lenses are a lot for a motorbike trip. But if you can carry three lenses, there should be space for four lenses, too. 😉

At the end of the day it depends on your personal style of making photos. Personally I would go for the 24 + 50, maybe 35 only.

Thanks for the feedback. 35 mm without interchangeable lenses would be the best solution. I can fit a camera and three lenses in my bag. That tempts me 🙂