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1 hour ago, Mrpete said:

Looks like the the OP has left the building. 

In what regard? I posted in this thread 15 hours ago. I have this tab open which I assume is what shows me as active, however, I am not glancing at it every moment of the day.
With regard to the German eBay sale, I am in talks with the seller.

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38 minutes ago, m-d262 said:

In what regard? I posted in this thread 15 hours ago. I have this tab open which I assume is what shows me as active, however, I am not glancing at it every moment of the day.
With regard to the German eBay sale, I am in talks with the seller.

Please buy it, so it takes away my temptation…

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Just out of curiosity...

The last occasion a 'New Batch' serial number for the M-D Typ-262 turned up - as far as the dedicated thread on that subject is concerned - was all the way back in July 2021(!). Does this suggest that it might be fair to assume - unless any new info comes to light - that the estimate of there having been fifteen batches produced is quite likely to be correct?

:-k

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1 hour ago, m-d262 said:

In what regard? I posted in this thread 15 hours ago. I have this tab open which I assume is what shows me as active, however, I am not glancing at it every moment of the day.
With regard to the German eBay sale, I am in talks with the seller.

Talk is cheap, buy the camera before someone else does…📷

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10 minutes ago, setuporg said:

Can't help reading this topic's title as the Hunt for the Red October!  Or the Red Dot-less, screen-less October.

Good film! The Russian captain had a most convincing Scottish accent...

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39 minutes ago, setuporg said:

Can't help reading this topic's title as the Hunt for the Red October!  Or the Red Dot-less, screen-less October.

Did you say red…🚩

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4 hours ago, pippy said:

Just out of curiosity...

The last occasion a 'New Batch' serial number for the M-D Typ-262 turned up - as far as the dedicated thread on that subject is concerned - was all the way back in July 2021(!). Does this suggest that it might be fair to assume - unless any new info comes to light - that the estimate of there having been fifteen batches produced is quite likely to be correct?

:-k

Philip.

I agree we have most likely now seen all the batches. 

I make it 16 batches:

batch        number of cameras sighted

49824xx        10
49829xx        2
49830xx        16    
49871xx        2
49872xx        14
49875xx        17
49876xx        17    
49986xx        11
49987xx        12
49988xx        1
51429xx        12
51430xx        5    
51501xx        15
5150200        1
51504xx        11
51537xx        3

This could mean a total of 1600 cameras made. Though TBH I would not be suprised if some batches were not made out to the full 100 units, so that total could easily

be less. 

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6 hours ago, pippy said:

I'm not sure whether it adds much but if Datsch wishes to add another camera mine was bought NOS / Ex-Demo (with all paraphernalia) from the London dealership as mentioned on the 18th December 2019 for £3,490 which, at today's exchange rate, works out to be $4,360.

Thanks for that I actually had that on my spreadsheet from your earliers post but did not put it on my graph as 2019 is so much earlier than my other data it would have made a lot of empty space Also it was a new / exdemo price rather than second hand. I’d’ve also used the 2019 exchange rate 

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42 minutes ago, Datsch said:

I agree we have most likely now seen all the batches. 

In my search, I have come across:
4987564
4987571
4987612
4998713
5150153
5150491
5150520 (this one doesn't seem to be on your list unless I misread) 

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22 minutes ago, m-d262 said:

5150520 (this one doesn't seem to be on your list unless I misread) 

Yes, you have found a new batch, that’s great, thank you. 

Now we perhaps are 1700 total. 

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1 hour ago, setuporg said:

So just 3x more than the Edition 60!

Clearly you were born to be an Accountant rather than an Arithmetician!......😸......

Philip.

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Posted (edited)

I have an M-D that I may sell this Spring as I am looking to buy a Monochrome M. I used it today and really enjoyed the experience but I am just not using it enough and I find I have been converting most my images to BxW so I thought I might give a Monochrome a try. My serial number is 49872XX series if that indicates where that was in the batches mentioned earlier. I will surely post on the forum first before trying eBay unless I do a trade in to save the sales tax difference on the new camera. I have to do a little research on if I am would prefer the M10 or M11 Mono.

How do you determine how many actuations a shutter has? I looked in the metadata in my edit program. It has serial number and other data, but no total frame count. I remember there was a program I used for my Canons to determine frame count. 

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1 hour ago, harleybob said:

How do you determine how many actuations a shutter has?

There is no program or firmware way of knowing this AFAIK. 

The image numbering resets every 10,000 shots. You can’t reset the image numbering  in a menu (there are no menus).

If you have owned the camera since new you can say that the number of actuations is the same as the image filename. (or more if you have cycled 10k)

IMHO if you have been round the clock with your odometer as it were in normal M-D use it takes many months of actual shooting trips to take 10,000 shots (M-D shooters tend not to be ‘spray and pray’) and there would be tiny traces of brassing on the camera. The black paint comes off rather easily  So one can guess if the camera image filename says 5000 and the camera is really mint, then it may be 5,000 actuations. Of course it could also be 15000, 25000 etc etc . 

Then again I have seen several M-D’s with rather a lot of brassing and in patterns that suggest it had been done deliberately las a decorative effect …

Hope that helps or confuses …

 

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8 hours ago, Datsch said:

There is no program or firmware way of knowing this AFAIK. 

The image numbering resets every 10,000 shots. You can’t reset the image numbering  in a menu (there are no menus).

If you have owned the camera since new you can say that the number of actuations is the same as the image filename. (or more if you have cycled 10k)

IMHO if you have been round the clock with your odometer as it were in normal M-D use it takes many months of actual shooting trips to take 10,000 shots (M-D shooters tend not to be ‘spray and pray’) and there would be tiny traces of brassing on the camera. The black paint comes off rather easily  So one can guess if the camera image filename says 5000 and the camera is really mint, then it may be 5,000 actuations. Of course it could also be 15000, 25000 etc etc . 

Then again I have seen several M-D’s with rather a lot of brassing and in patterns that suggest it had been done deliberately las a decorative effect …

Hope that helps or confuses …

 

Then I am in the 2500 shutter trip range. 519 of them where yesterday as I was shooting still for a film shoot. So 20% of my usage was in one day....the rest of the time I carried it and shot a frame here and there. My bottom plate has a bit of brassing but mostly on my fake shutter crank grip. 

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An MD 262 from Japan

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