hdmesa Posted November 21, 2024 Share #101 Posted November 21, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Conflicted on this one. On one hand, I'm disappointed the M11 gloss black is based on the M11 and not the M11-P. But at least the gloss black paint and the non-Sapphire LCD screen will both scratch more easily together 🫠 On the other hand, this shows Leica is listening to user feedback. Many of us have long asked for the more elegant finishes on the lenses like gloss black paint to not be limited editions that only a select few ever have a chance to acquire. This puts Leica back into competition (from an availability standpoint not affordability) with third party M lens manufacturers like Voigtlander and Light Lens Lab that offer the more unusual finishes like gloss black. Regarding the Noct gloss black, Voigtlander has a history of producing gloss black paint over both aluminum and brass. So I don't see the Noct being aluminum as being a deal breaker. That said, I'm much less interested in the lens than the camera. Thinking I might trade my M11-D for an M11 gloss black. I don't use the internal memory, and I can/will scratch any screen, Sapphire or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Hi hdmesa, Take a look here Leica M11 in Gloss Black and Glossy Noctilux Coming?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Leica Filmmatic Posted November 21, 2024 Share #102 Posted November 21, 2024 Screen protectors all you need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted November 21, 2024 Share #103 Posted November 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Leica Filmmatic said: Screen protectors all you need I've tried them all, and they never go on right – always a bubble near the edge, then over time they start coming loose. I'd be more inclined to just leave on the factory protector unless they stop using it like they did with the SL3. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlesch Posted November 21, 2024 Share #104 Posted November 21, 2024 1 minute ago, hdmesa said: I've tried them all, and they never go on right – always a bubble near the edge, then over time they start coming loose. I'd be more inclined to just leave on the factory protector unless they stop using it like they did with the SL3. Had same issue with various brands, It seems Expert Shield (glass version) has worked the best for me. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 21, 2024 Share #105 Posted November 21, 2024 Leica is such a confusing company. I’ve never met a single person that says they want black paint over aluminum. Does anyone want to see aluminum shine through over the years? I don’t. And the camera is based on the M11 instead of the P which is baffling. Seems like a way to use up old parts. They could have at least soldered in a 256GB storage chip. Overall these seem like decisions made by someone that doesn’t understand the customer very well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted November 21, 2024 Share #106 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Crem said: black paint I do not think the new 'paint' will wear like the old. Edited November 21, 2024 by pedaes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2024 Share #107 Posted November 21, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 minutes ago, darlesch said: Had same issue with various brands, It seems Expert Shield (glass version) has worked the best for me. I like the Expert Shield matt finish, but they are all good. The secret is to install the screen protector in the bathroom just after someone has had a shower. And don't wear a wooly jersey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted November 21, 2024 Share #108 Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, MP3 said: What is the point to collect these design variant if they could produce and sell as much as they could ? Maybe the point is that Leica expect some of us to take photographs? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 21, 2024 Share #109 Posted November 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, Al Brown said: For everyone who thinks Leica is not listening to the customers: https://petapixel.com/2024/11/20/leica-just-recorded-the-highest-revenue-in-its-entire-100-year-history/ I can’t argue with that. They are listening to someone. Not me. Are they listening to you @Al Brown? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlesch Posted November 21, 2024 Share #110 Posted November 21, 2024 For those interested, Leica Camera USA has 10 in stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 21, 2024 Share #111 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, pedaes said: I do not think the new 'paint' will wear like the old. I'm looking forward to the first person on this forum that tries to manually brass their new M11 black paint and lens so we can find out. The M11 says it will brass. I can't imagine they used different paint on the lens and body. So I expect the lens to show aluminum if properly used. Edited November 21, 2024 by Crem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobiasfjp Posted November 21, 2024 Share #112 Posted November 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Al Brown said: There was a rumor that the 50/1.2 BP will only be available in 100 units. Was before or is there still that rumor Al? I heard 500, but read unlimited. Which one is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobjuul Posted November 21, 2024 Share #113 Posted November 21, 2024 1 minute ago, tobiasfjp said: Was before or is there still that rumor Al? I heard 500, but read unlimited. Which one is it? unlikely to be 100, given that you could order up to 5 at a time direct from the leica website here in europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted November 21, 2024 Share #114 Posted November 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Al Brown said: There was a rumor that the 50/1.2 BP will only be available in 100 units. Per Leica Miami's email, it's "standard production". Of course that doesn't stop Leica from later releasing a brass version. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/416415-leica-m11-in-gloss-black-and-glossy-noctilux-coming/?do=findComment&comment=5707868'>More sharing options...
aficionados Posted November 21, 2024 Share #115 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Al Brown said: There was a rumor that the 50/1.2 BP will only be available in 100 units. I don;t think this rumour has any of truth in it. My dealer has 12 copies ready to be shipped tomorrow. I turned it down anyway. It's like the silver version but in black, nothing exciting for me. It's even worse, the silver version is brass, and this crap is aluminum. Edited November 21, 2024 by aficionados Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted November 21, 2024 Share #116 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) The cynic in me says they released this earlier in the cycle to have a larger window to shift leftover m11’s before the m12 gen. There is no better way to shift a standard m11 now at retail than to make it black paint. Edited November 21, 2024 by costa43 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted November 21, 2024 Share #117 Posted November 21, 2024 26 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Yeah first was 100, then 500 where did you get those numbers.? Reference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Filmmatic Posted November 22, 2024 Share #118 Posted November 22, 2024 Picked up the camera today and it is a beauty! I traded in my Q towards it and I am overjoyed to be back in the M system 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted November 22, 2024 Share #119 Posted November 22, 2024 according to leicarumors, its limited. but no numbers are known but i also heard 500 pieces for the lens 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WvE Posted November 22, 2024 Share #120 Posted November 22, 2024 59 minutes ago, overexposed said: according to leicarumors, its limited. but no numbers are known but i also heard 500 pieces for the lens As often with Leica, limited until demand is higher than expected. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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