Should I replace my “Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 ASPH” with a “Summilux-TL 35 f/1.4 ASPH.” for my CL?

[yst]

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I have been using an only M lens I have left:  a Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 ASPH (11663) with my CL body, I now have no more Leica M bodies, which I use to shoot slide films only.  

What do you think:  should I replace the M lens with a:  “Summilux-TL 35 f/1.4 ASPH.”? 
Would this 35f1.4-TL lens much more suited for the CL camera body than the 35f1.4-M lens + “Leica M-Adapter L“ 
Now the only TL lens I have is the 55-135 zoom. 

Edited October 23, 2024 by yst

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[spydrxx]

Why do you need to replace it, what does it not accomplish that you want?

[SoCalLeicanator]

Its the only lens I kept after selling my CL with hopes that it would find a home on a future body.

That said, it's a lump and I have to imagine the ergonomics of the M lens are much better. 

I would say no. 

 

[Stuart Richardson]

The CL line-up is kind of a dead end at this point, since it was discontinued. The M line is still alive and well. So at least if you decide to change bodies at some point, the M lens will still have inherent value, both on an M or L body, and to potential buyers. I also think the size is hard to ignore in this particular case.

[Gregm61]

Fortunately, if one ever was to, as I plan to do, pick up a used SL2 to use both my M lenses and TL lenses in aps-c mode, with image stabilization, the lenses still have a long possible use ahead of them, not to mention I doubt any CL or T series body is apt to die any time soon, short of physical abuse by the owner.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

I use a pre asph 35 Summilux on my CL, I think the size with adapter is perfect for the CL, I have also used a 35 f2.8 Zeiss on the CL another good size match. The 35 TL has an excellent reputation, but its size kept me from getting one. I am not a 50mm user that much so the 35s don't get used much, if I'm traveling I carry one. My 2 CL/TL lenses are the 11-23 and the 23, I use the 11-23 for 80% of my images. 

[yst]

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2 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

I use a pre asph 35 Summilux on my CL, I think the size with adapter is perfect for the CL, I have also used a 35 f2.8 Zeiss on the CL another good size match. The 35 TL has an excellent reputation, but its size kept me from getting one. I am not a 50mm user that much so the 35s don't get used much, if I'm traveling I carry one. My 2 CL/TL lenses are the 11-23 and the 23, I use the 11-23 for 80% of my images. 

One thing is the 35f1.4 TL lens is auto focus, which is very useful & decisive in some situations.  What do you think of your 23f2 TL lens?

[jaapv]

No. The Suumilux M is 50 mm equivalent so one cannot replace the other

[tommonego@gmail.com]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb yst:

One thing is the 35f1.4 TL lens is auto focus, which is very useful & decisive in some situations.  What do you think of your 23f2 TL lens?

I find the CL to be very easy to focus, can't deny autofocus is helpful too. 

The 23 is not as good as the 11-23 zoom, but it is an f2 not f4.5 (the 11-23 at 23mm). It also makes it combined with the CL a smaller package. So on a rainy day you have a camera and lens that can fit under a raincoat. A photo from the 23 on just such a day.

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[yst]

Why is not as good ... ? 

10 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

The 23 is not as good as the 11-23 zoom, but it is an f2 not f4.5 (the 11-23 at 23mm). It also makes it combined with the CL a smaller package ... 

 

[yst]

14 hours ago, jaapv said:

No. The Suumilux M is 50 mm equivalent so one cannot replace the other

Isn’t that the  “Summilux-TL 35 f/1.4 ASPH.” is also 50mm equivalent on the CL? 

[jaapv]

Gotcha-you’re right. It is 44 C right now, the heat has addled my brain…😒

[tommonego@gmail.com]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb yst:

Why is not as good ... ? 

The 23 Summicron is a decent lens, but the 11-23 Super-Vario-Elmar is a notch above, its only down side is it is slow. While 23mm on the CL is my favorite focal length I also like the option of going wider. 

[yst]

4 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

The 23 Summicron is a decent lens, but the 11-23 Super-Vario-Elmar is a notch above, its only down side is it is slow. While 23mm on the CL is my favorite focal length I also like the option of going wider. 

even at F2, The depth of field is still too big for my usage in many cases, with the CL’s APS-c format.  The zoom at f4.5 at 23mm is just no separation effect.   
anyone use the 24mm Summilux M lens on the CL, to make it a F1.4, 35mm equivalent lens?

[Torpille]

I think that if you already have the summilux m 35, then the TL 35 isn't necessary. 
If your preferred focal length is 35 mm, choose the tl23 instead.
 

[TL3]

If you never plan to go back to the M, then you could pick up the 35 TL on the cheap with money leftover from selling the M.  Would expect 35 M to hold value better in the long term, but I’d think 35 TL autofocus is a huge advantage pairing with a CL body

I thought TL lenses would have another renaissance with the SL3 resolution, but this hasn’t seemed to move the needle for resale prices yet

[yst]

One of my recent images from a CL with the Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. M lens:  

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[Markey]

Interesting discussion.

I let my CL lenses go and am in the process of stocking up again ( up to a point).

I did move to the sl system but those lenses are unnecessarily heavy esp the 90/280 IMO.

Looking back it was the 55135 , 23 and 35 that got the most use so thats what I`ve gone for.

Happy to use them on my SL2s as well makes the outfit more comfortable.

That 11 23 sounds interesting though.

 

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[Torpille]

On 1/4/2025 at 10:05 PM, Markey said:

Interesting discussion.

I let my CL lenses go and am in the process of stocking up again ( up to a point).

I did move to the sl system but those lenses are unnecessarily heavy esp the 90/280 IMO.

Looking back it was the 55135 , 23 and 35 that got the most use so thats what I`ve gone for.

Happy to use them on my SL2s as well makes the outfit more comfortable.

That 11 23 sounds interesting though.

 

Same here!

SL system with 24-90 is too heavy for my use. 

CL and the 18-56 is a better option in many cases.
Just use the  M 35 lux you have or add the TL 35 wich is a great lense too in case of ….

The thing is, that a CL with the M lux 35 is quite one of a best option you can get. Very close in IQ to the M10 with the same lens which I love, the best combo with the best rendering for my taste

If you need 28 or 35 mm, then a q2 or q3 could be an other possibility but then there is no lens switch capacity and no compression at 50-75-90 mm 🤔
And a q2 is almost a M killer. It delivers beautiful photos with a 26mm felling. A great camera too !

I sold mine for these reason but I am very tempted to acquire an another one.

[jaapv]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:17 AM, Torpille said:

I think that if you already have the summilux m 35, then the TL 35 isn't necessary. 
If your preferred focal length is 35 mm, choose the tl23 instead.
 

The Summilux 35 M will work like a Summicron 50 (AOV and DOF-wise) on a CL or SL. If you want the effect of a Summilux 35 on the CL (except for DOF) you need the Summilux 24 M