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vor 11 Stunden schrieb Seba66:

Option 1 : Selling the M10 and get a used mint-condition M11, keeping the Voigtländer Nokton 50 mm 1:1.5 VM II lens.

Option 2: Keeping the M10 and get the Summilux-M 50 mm 1:1.4 Asph used in mint condition.

Easy—upgrade the camera.

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12 hours ago, Seba66 said:

Sorry if this has been discussed so many times…

Starting point: M10 and 50mm CV Nokton f/1.5 VM II.

I have a budget of about 3.5, 4 k€

Option 1 : Selling the M10 and get a used mint condition M11, keeping the CV lens.

Option 2: Keeping the M10 and get the 50 lux ASPH used in mint condition.

I have no any concern with my actual kit, so I’m aware that is partly a new toy desire and partly a rational upgrade path…

Any advice will be appreciated 

Upgrade both, but choose the M10-R + Voigtlander 50 f/1.

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10 hours ago, erl said:

I think by the time this discussion of indecision has decided nothing, the M13 will be a better choice! :huh:

Ah ah. Not true. I made the decision. I will go on the M11. I think €3k is a good deal for trading my good M10 with a mint M11. All the new features that are rumored on the M12 don't particularly interest me, so, if all goes well I'll keep the M11 for at least 6-7 years. And if all goes well, selling some other gears within 12 months I will be on the market for a used lux in mint condition

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On 10/8/2024 at 2:50 AM, erl said:

What is wrong with your present photographs? If you know the answer, ask your self, will any 'new' gear fix that?

My betting is that it will not.

Moderator: reporting this as violating the code of conduct, requiring us to keep up with GAS.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Not enough information, why you think, you need an upgrade.

I would go for the Thypoch Simera 50/1.4 ASPH or think about an additional focal length, keep the M10 and save the money until the M12 arrives (hopefully with less problems than the M11 series).

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2 hours ago, 3D-Kraft.com said:

Not enough information, why you think, you need an upgrade.

I would go for the Thypoch Simera 50/1.4 ASPH or think about an additional focal length, keep the M10 and save the money until the M12 arrives (hopefully with less problems than the M11 series).

Because a brand new camera will have fewer problems than one out for 2 and a half years?

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On 10/29/2024 at 8:19 PM, Velo-city said:

I think the OP already posted he made his mind up and was getting the M11.

At the end of the day I did all in on the M ... Sold M10, CV 50 (and a Q2) and got both M11 and 50 lux ASPH I (with less then 2.5 k€ delta)

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