Long awaited: Leica Q3 43 with APO-Summicron 43mm f/2 ASPH.

[jjroroek]

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next step: opgrade programm for the leica q3 to leica q3 43 ? or even make te two lenses interchangable. ? or one lens with zoomfunctie 

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[stephenmick]

4 minutes ago, jjroroek said:

next step: opgrade programm for the leica q3 to leica q3 43 ? or even make te two lenses interchangable. ? or one lens with zoomfunctie 

I have to think that somewhere, deep in the secret labs beneath Wetzlar, there exists the unholy union of the Tri-Elmar lens and the Q series. 28/35/50 focal length options, with a 60mp sensor, anyone?

[jjroroek]

33 minutes ago, stephenmick said:

I have to think that somewhere, deep in the secret labs beneath Wetzlar, there exists the unholy union of the Tri-Elmar lens and the Q series. 28/35/50 focal length options, with a 60mp sensor, anyone?

haha i was just thinking f that same option   but then not tri-elmar but tri-summicron 

[stephenmick]

Just now, jjroroek said:

haha i was just thinking f that same option   but then not tri-elmar but tri-summicron 

Hmmmm… That would be (probably) tough. I'd settle for a Tri-Summarit (2.4). Maybe.

[jjroroek]

4 minutes ago, stephenmick said:

Hmmmm… That would be (probably) tough. I'd settle for a Tri-Summarit (2.4). Maybe.

That will do

[LocalHero1953]

1 hour ago, ramarren said:

I don't live in "Euro" land. I live in the USA, California to be precise. There's very very little info about such details of European business protocol requirements in the daily press as it is not deemed to be particularly significant or noteworthy to average US folks living in California, et al. When I saw it mentioned this morning, on this thread, I looked to see what the mandate was about. It took about a half hour to discover it on BBC News/UK and one other small business journal based in the USA. (I only read English fluently so I didn't look through French, Spanish, German, Italian news media....)

So it should not be a surprise that most US residents would have heard very little about it, despite that for big companies like Apple it presents another general PITA. 🙄

G

"Under Rock Dweller Extraordinaire"

If you are ever moved to read EU legislation in the original (and I can understand and sympathise if you would rather not), it is available in official English here. Despite Brexit, English remains an official language of the EU (because of Ireland & Malta), so all legislation is published i.a. in English. The multilingual EU supports an ecosystem of interpreters and translators, and specific linguistic regulations - someone could write a book on it. Disclosure: my daughter is an interpreter for the EU Parliament, Commission, Council and, occasionally, Courts of Justice (and a steady source of entertaining stories about well known politicians).

[Jk1002]

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I went to my Leica Store today in Boston hoping for delivery by Christmas and walked out with one. 😀

So they seem to be in the market, proper launch this time around.

 

[DigitalHeMan]

3 hours ago, algrove said:

It is amazing to me that people have no clue about the Euro mandate regarding chargers. Guess they live under a rock.

I'm amazed that you find it amazing. Why do you think everyone would know about this? I live in Europe, read the news daily, and regularly work with lobbyists to review proposed technology related EU legislation, and I hadn't heard about it until today either.

[algrove]

Well, I don't live in the EU and I heard about it over a year ago when Apple had a problem with the new legislation. 

If you had not heard of it until today then you were living under a rock since you admit it is your best interests to know about these kinds of changes.

Even buying a phone these days, none now come with chargers. Apple's new iPhone is now the 16 model and this has been going on with Apple iPhones now since model 14.

Edited September 27, 2024 by algrove

[Miltz]

6 hours ago, egrossman said:

They used Fedex but I paid an additional $30 to upgrade the service to overnight (to California) instead of delivering Monday.

Erik

How did you even get that option? Mine just said expedited. Unless I missed it in my rush to order 

[egrossman]

I spoke to them on the phone.

 

[bilbrown]

On 9/26/2024 at 7:25 AM, Tjazz said:

So here we are again. I’ve got my Q3 and have been on the Miami waiting list for the SL3 since ten minutes after its release in March. Yes the 43 might be a bit more useful than the 28 but to attempt a trade of the Q3 to the now nearly $7000US Q3-43, I would take a substantial financial loss. For what? Honestly mostly the endorphins involved. The Q3 is amazing and I get what the 43 offers if I take a few steps forward. As to the interminable SL3 wait, I’m producing great pictures with my SL2-S. I have to step off the Leica buy-trade depreciation train. 

It's a lot less of a depreciation than most other camera brands, but true.

I traded my silver 50 APO (I never used it) for my M10M, and traded my M10-R and Q2M for my M11-P and still paid some cash.  I miss my Q2M, and would love a Q3 43 monochrom! But seeing that this is likely not in the cards for some time... I have decided that at this point, to retain the most value I am only getting somewhat-special editions that are usable (like the Q2M, my Leitz Wezlar M10-M, and M11-P) and then catch all cameras like the SL2-S. This isn't to say right out of the box cameras aren't excellent! It's just economics.

For example, the M10-M on release was $8,295, on the used market a regular M10-M is $5,500ish and the "Leitz-Wezlar" edition of the same camera is $7,500ish! The M11 is new $8995 and used is $7,100ish. Where as the M11-P is just $200 more and used stays very close to list price. My M240 "100 edition" still goes for $3,000ish while a M240 is around $500 cheaper. The worst and most immediate depreciation was my S, then my SL 601! The SL2 had similar depreciation (but I had gotten mine used).

See the trend? If something is a workhorse, factory version of the camera, the depreciation is more pronounced. If you just pay a little more for one of the "special editions" (often just cosmetic, or in the case of the M-D, M10-D and M11-D a serious physical difference) you get the camera you want and have a resale/upgrade that is much much better later down the line.

 

I always say, "this is all I need, this is the last one." It never is. I'd rather know what I am getting is coveted.

Although ALL our Leicas are coveted.

 

I predict Leica will make MANY Q3 43, and this means in a year or so the used value will wane. We all typically keep our cameras really nice. If Leica makes this in a "cheap" special edition, like a Q3 43-P or something, then its worth the purchase.

[luetz]

Now that the rumour is "reality"...Will the Q3-M come in 43mm/28mm or both??

[My1stLeicaCam]

On 9/27/2024 at 8:50 AM, Jeff S said:

Auto ISO? Metering pattern setting? Changing light?  

Jeff

Yup. Auto iso. 
I was holding the 43, and another person standing just beside me holding the 28. 
Both of us touch focus the same subject on the lcd. 
I requested to repeat the test outdoors. 
The result is the same. 43 will always have higher iso than 28, at same aperture and speed. 
Thus I’m puzzled. 

[My1stLeicaCam]

On 9/27/2024 at 9:00 AM, RobW0 said:

If you are not moving your feet the 28 is going to have a different view than the 43. 

I’m holding the 43, another person standing next to me was holding the 28. 
We were almost standing shoulder to shoulder. 
Initially it was in a dimly lit room. 
I requested to perform the same test outdoors. 
The result is always the 43 having higher iso. 

[Jeff S]

9 minutes ago, My1stLeicaCam said:

Yup. Auto iso. 
I was holding the 43, and another person standing just beside me holding the 28. 
Both of us touch focus the same subject on the lcd. 
I requested to repeat the test outdoors. 
The result is the same. 43 will always have higher iso than 28, at same aperture and speed. 
Thus I’m puzzled. 

Was the metering mode the same on both?

Jeff

[SrMi]

8 minutes ago, My1stLeicaCam said:

I’m holding the 43, another person standing next to me was holding the 28. 
We were almost standing shoulder to shoulder. 
Initially it was in a dimly lit room. 
I requested to perform the same test outdoors. 
The result is always the 43 having higher iso. 

By how much?

[My1stLeicaCam]

12 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

The Q cameras meter (and autofocus) only within the frame you’ve selected. They’d have to be framing exactly the same scene to get the same meter reading.

Both cameras using multi field. 
I ensure both cameras have the same setting. 
I chanced upon this accidentally. 
Just bringing up, in case anyone going to buy the 43, can do the same test and check for yourself. 

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[My1stLeicaCam]

12 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

Was the metering mode the same on both?

Jeff

Yup. Same multi field. 
If u have the chance, can test this out. 
The Leica people can’t tell me why during the sneak peek launch. 

[Jeff S]

4 minutes ago, My1stLeicaCam said:

Yup. Same multi field. 
 

Well, multi-field on the Q3 presumably includes a broader field than multi-field on the 43.  I wonder if spot metering (or a bit bigger, on same subject) would yield the same ISO.

Jeff