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On 7/15/2024 at 11:03 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

The freezing problems with the M11 don't worry me - I will trust my luck not to get one that freezes, and will deal with it if it happens. But I dislike the feel and sound of the M11 shutter - it gives the impression of Leica's attempt to modernise the M series, getting to grips with LV and exposure from the EVF, but has not done it very well. Not Das Wesentliche.

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I’d love Leica proposing a Traditional shutter/metering digital M again

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I recently added Panasonic 20-60. It is surprisingly good in overall. I want try it for video.

This lens is absolutely on limit of weight and size. I wont want larger and heavier than that.

Previously, I only had various M lenses on the SL 601.

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I’m verging on sacrilege.  I have the M11 and the hasselblad x system (x2d and 907x) and made the horrible mistake of getting an sl3…: and I’m hooked.  
 

it’s a superb camera.  I sold the q2 because I got it for my wife and she doesn’t use it, so I’m getting her a dlux8 instead.

so, now…… I find they the sl3 with the m mount lenses it’s a superb light weight fool ( aged eye) proof. Plus then I can use it with the Al lens kit as needed. 
 

BUT, the M system has always been a source of inspiration and joy for me….. so I have 3 systems, 4 cameras…..  good problem to have…. Except on the bank account.

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Resurrecting an old thread since I wanted to add my 2 pence.  🙂 
I had a Q3 43 as an every day and travel camera. Then I acquired a used SL2. After much deliberation I sold the Q3 43 because I prefer the ergonomics of the SL2. I gelled more with the SL2 probably because I always used to have SLR's and then DSLR's in the past. 

Anyway, as a lightweight zoom I use the Leica APO Vario-Elmarit TL 55-135 f/3.5-4.5, which gives me 82-200 mm on the SL2. I do loose 20 odd MP which I can live with. The photos are still just over 20 MP. I find the lens sharp with nice colour rendering. And it is lightweight, only some 547g. 

I am still deciding on lightweight options in the 35mm and 50mm zone. The M mount lenses look very tempting. The hindrance is the cost and I am not sure if I can give up autofocus. 

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8 hours ago, Semerka said:

Resurrecting an old thread since I wanted to add my 2 pence.  🙂 
I had a Q3 43 as an every day and travel camera. Then I acquired a used SL2. After much deliberation I sold the Q3 43 because I prefer the ergonomics of the SL2. I gelled more with the SL2 probably because I always used to have SLR's and then DSLR's in the past. 

Anyway, as a lightweight zoom I use the Leica APO Vario-Elmarit TL 55-135 f/3.5-4.5, which gives me 82-200 mm on the SL2. I do loose 20 odd MP which I can live with. The photos are still just over 20 MP. I find the lens sharp with nice colour rendering. And it is lightweight, only some 547g. 

I am still deciding on lightweight options in the 35mm and 50mm zone. The M mount lenses look very tempting. The hindrance is the cost and I am not sure if I can give up autofocus. 

Panasonic Lumix S 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6 is a small, low-weigt zoom alternative.

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Semerka,  Helged in his post #45 gave you some good advice.  My two cents would include your taking a look at the Leica 35 or 50 Summicron-SL lenses.  Both are excellent AF lenses, light and render in a excellent way.  You can find image examples of these lenses in the L mount forum image threads.  These two lenses which ever you choose, won't break your bank account either.  If you go the 35 or 50 Apo Summicron-SL lenses, these are in a class of their own and more expensive.  But if you want a M lens, either 35 or 50 M Summicrons are great too.  The good news you have choices that only you can decide what best for your genre(s) of photography.   r/ Mark

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Since I posted this thread I've had a Q3 43 for over a year and it has completely solved my light kit conundrum. The Q28 didn't really work for me but the 43mm focal length is a perfect compromise for my style of shooting and I don't mind missing the wide shots.

I do of course prefer the ergonomics of my SL3, so am very glad to own both. I have hardly used my lighter SL lenses since getting the Q3 43, sticking mainly with the APOs and 24-90mm.

I had the 55-135mm when I had the Leica CL. It is indeed a fantastic lens, but I've always talked myself out of acquiring on for my SL cameras with the reasoning that for a little more weight I can use my 90mm SL APO and still get a full frame image at 90mm, an APS-C crop at 135mm (but from an even better lens that can go to f2) and still crop to 200mm 'in a pinch'. The 90mm f2.8 Sigma can also do this and is lighter than the 55-135mm. Of course it is also nice to be able to zoom and frame directly in camera, so I am not saying it is a bad choice :)

 

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