Overblown oranges

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I was out photographing some orange day lilies, The orange from the M8 just went off the charts, I was using a 90 Elmarit, which is not a very contrasty lens, had a UV cut filter on the lens.  White balance was Auto. On this example if I drop the saturation around 30% it looks more real, but a DNG out of the camera should be better. Opened in ACR.

 

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[jaapv]

This is hard for any camera, but a DNG straight out of camera is not an image file. You mean file straight out of the DNG converter on my computer. Use a different profile ( or correct like you did). As an exercise try photographing purple flowers like Lavender or Jacaranda - next to impossible to get a decent colour match on any camera. 

[jdlaing]

6 hours ago, jaapv said:

This is hard for any camera, but a DNG straight out of camera is not an image file. You mean file straight out of the DNG converter on my computer. Use a different profile ( or correct like you did). As an exercise try photographing purple flowers like Lavender or Jacaranda - next to impossible to get a decent colour match on any camera. 

I believe a .dng file straight out of the camera is an image file.

[chris_livsey]

2 hours ago, jdlaing said:

I believe a .dng file straight out of the camera is an image file.

The clue is in the name, "Adobe Digital Negative RAW file that you can open with Photoshop and other image programs."

When the "other" programs and Photoshop open this negative file they process it according to the parameters in their opening program. The other name is RAW file: RAW files contain uncompressed and unprocessed image data , DNG is a RAW file variant that is not proprietary as some RAW files are. 

It is an image file BUT to see the image you must process it with a RAW file converter, what you will see depends on that converter and the settings it applies to interpret the data. 

The negative bit is misleading to correctly analogy film it should say undeveloped, you can view a film negative without further "processing" undeveloped film or a RAW file requires processing to view.

 

Edited July 11, 2024 by chris_livsey

[chris_livsey]

Perhaps you should look at Capture One for M8 files? (there is a free trial of the full version)

When the M8 was released a free C1 disc was included in the package (limited to that camera not open to any digital camera as the paid for program but full version not crippled as they do now for specific free cameras). Leica had worked with C1 to optimise the conversion. 

"Adobe reads the EXIF data for white balance from your raw files, Lightroom and ACR interpret that information differently than (Nikon in this case). Adobe creates their profiles for cameras from two known-light exposures. One in carefully controlled artificial light, one in controlled daylight. Adobe appears to make the assumption that white balance is "linear," thus any temperature between those two known ones should be linearly placed between the exposures they captured." Do You Know What's Automated and How? | Cameras and Photography Explained | Thom Hogan (bythom.com)

 

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I think most understand what was meant by DNG right out of the camera, was no changes in ACR, didn't think I had to be that specific. What I think is part of the problem is I couldn't find software for my Colormunki colorimeter for my new computer, so my monitor hasn't been calibrated in a couple of months. Just ordered a new one. What gave me this idea is the image here is much less hot than on my monitor. Changing from Adobe RGB to sRGB on the my system didn't help on the monitor I work on. 

Here my CL is handling purple very well, minor adjustments in ACR. Lens is a 105 Micro Nikkor, also in an open shade environment.

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19 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

had a UV cut filter on the lens

Does the filter cut IR as well?

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Does the filter cut IR as well?

Yes it is B&W UV/IR cut filter.