Wellsyboy Posted May 29, 2024 Share #41 Posted May 29, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 hours ago, NightPix said: I have to agree completely. One can always get out an SL2 or SL3 and the appropriate lens to get a high resolution image of the desired composition. But if you are traveling or just out and about, you likely won't have all that gear with you (and don't forget the tripod!), and that's why the Q series was created. I shoot DNG's only and a lot of B&W so I have the camera set up to see that in the viewfinder, but in LR I have the whole image and all the color to work with if I want. I like to keep the 35mm crop lines turned on because I prefer that over 28mm and it allows me to see what's happening outside the desired "35mm" scene (kind of like on an m viewfinder). It's a useful and convenient method that works for me. Any cropping happens in post on the full image. I've tried carrying my SL2 with a 35mm m-lens but it's still heavier and definitely not as convenient (or as a fun) as using a Q3. Hmmmm... I might try that 35mm crop thing - sounds like an interesting idea. Might have a play with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianforber Posted May 29, 2024 Share #42 Posted May 29, 2024 I’m an amateur photographer. I love to crop and bought my Q2 and M11 specifically because I believe they allow me more scope to do so. The Q2 is a great travel camera and I expect the Q3 to be the same. I'm not lazy. Thats “my truth” as they say these days. Recollections Opinions may vary. 😁 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozonoh Posted May 29, 2024 Share #43 Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/26/2024 at 6:35 PM, Al Brown said: Yes of course, in post production cropping is used to aid in perfecting composition, not for replacing focal lengths in the field like some folks would like to. Saying 28mm is a tri-focal lens (28-35-50) because you have 60 megapixels is just very amateur. I crop all the time in Photoshop but I would never think of cropping into a 28mm image to pretend it was made with a 50mm. Bresson, the most quoted photographer in this forum, would immediatelly start turning in his grave. I do not want to invent hot water as we say and lots of megabytes of threads have been written on the subject. Everybody is stil lfree to do whatever they want. I think most important thing is that we all agree Q3 is an insanely good and capable camera - and you of course pay the premium for that. You just don't know what Cartier Bresson would have thought about today tools and how he would have used them. And by the way he is just one great photographer among so many. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted May 29, 2024 Share #44 Posted May 29, 2024 43 minutes ago, Kozonoh said: You just don't know what Cartier Bresson would have thought about today tools and how he would have used them. And by the way he is just one great photographer among so many. Indeed, he is one great among the many, but still the most quoted here on the forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjroroek Posted May 29, 2024 Share #45 Posted May 29, 2024 I come from a m10-r and have been using the q3 now for a month now. . I am very impressed with its sharpness, autofocus, image stabilisatie, high iso performance and post processing possibility's With the q3 about 85 % of the pictures are razor sharp even at 1/8 sec ( impossible withe the m10-r) the perspective bij cropping the image is the same as using different lenses on my m10. the only real difference between cropping en changing a lens is the DOF. if you crop to 50 mm on the q3 f1.7 the DOF is like an 2.8 /50 mm . that is still reasonable but not like shooting with a summilux 50 mm on a leica m. I agree with the point that you should do as much work as possible in the camera, but if that causes you to miss important moments then you have to make other choices. That could mean more postprocessing or changing to a camera that do more work for you. Another fact i had to get used to is that I don't belong anymore to the exclusive conservative family of m users :-)......But that was easy to accept now that I experience the results of the Q3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wien Posted May 29, 2024 Share #46 Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, jjroroek said: I come from a m10-r and have been using the q3 now for a month now. . I am very impressed with its sharpness, autofocus, image stabilisatie, high iso performance and post processing possibility's With the q3 about 85 % of the pictures are razor sharp even at 1/8 sec ( impossible withe the m10-r) the perspective bij cropping the image is the same as using different lenses on my m10. the only real difference between cropping en changing a lens is the DOF. if you crop to 50 mm on the q3 f1.7 the DOF is like an 2.8 /50 mm . that is still reasonable but not like shooting with a summilux 50 mm on a leica m. I agree with the point that you should do as much work as possible in the camera, but if that causes you to miss important moments then you have to make other choices. That could mean more postprocessing or changing to a camera that do more work for you. Another fact i had to get used to is that I don't belong anymore to the exclusive conservative family of m users :-)......But that was easy to accept now that I experience the results of the Q3 I agree with you about the Q3 — welcome to the exclusive happy family of Q users! David 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
randman Posted May 30, 2024 Share #47 Posted May 30, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am astounded by the image quality of the Q3. Also, the JPEG image colors and skin tones are better than I can produce with the raw files. I just like the jpeg's better. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSantaF4 Posted May 30, 2024 Share #48 Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/24/2024 at 6:58 AM, odpr said: I have seen many people in this forum asking if the Leica Q3 is a good travel companion and can replace the usual DSLR with several lenses. Using the Leica in my last two trips to Europe as my only camera, I can say there is no need for any other camera. The sensor of the camera, combined with the jaw-dropping lens, creates images I have never seen in any camera I used so far. The 60MP, combined with the sharpest lens, creates images so sharp edge to edge that when you post-process the image in the computer, you can almost make any image you want with any area in the image. This makes the crop feature built-in, very(!) handy, and usable. You can get a real 35/50/75 mm Image with it. I attached two examples that shos how insane the sensor and the lens are. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I want a Q3! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted May 30, 2024 Share #49 Posted May 30, 2024 5 hours ago, randman said: Also, the JPEG image colors and skin tones are better than I can produce with the raw files. I just like the jpeg's better. That’s shocking! What processing software are you using? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangosix Posted June 1, 2024 Share #50 Posted June 1, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 2:03 PM, Le Chef said: That’s shocking! What processing software are you using? Lightroom and Capture One both. The Lightroom files are the images I was referring to; I like 'em. Especially food and especially humans. Landscapes require more work. Capture One files appear to be similar honestly, but not Lightroom. I am often capturing small social events on an aggressive timeline. Those jpegs are lovely and the client feedback is incredibly positive. As a matter of fact it has made me reconsider all of the painstaking editing I have been doing with raw files. Now, the SL2s is a different beast and those raw files are king. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSantaF4 Posted June 1, 2024 Share #51 Posted June 1, 2024 On 5/28/2024 at 9:26 AM, NightPix said: I have to agree completely. One can always get out an SL2 or SL3 and the appropriate lens to get a high resolution image of the desired composition. But if you are traveling or just out and about, you likely won't have all that gear with you (and don't forget the tripod!), and that's why the Q series was created. I shoot DNG's only and a lot of B&W so I have the camera set up to see that in the viewfinder, but in LR I have the whole image and all the color to work with if I want. I like to keep the 35mm crop lines turned on because I prefer that over 28mm and it allows me to see what's happening outside the desired "35mm" scene (kind of like on an m viewfinder). It's a useful and convenient method that works for me. Any cropping happens in post on the full image. I've tried carrying my SL2 with a 35mm m-lens but it's still heavier and definitely not as convenient (or as a fun) as using a Q3. What about with an SL2-S? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanJ Posted June 6, 2024 Share #52 Posted June 6, 2024 I agree, the Q3 is amazing. But, I usually travel with my Q3, and a Ricoh GRiii. The Ricoh is nowhere near as good, of course, but I find it easy to carry and use, especially if I am in an area that I am not comfortable with. But the Q3, without a doubt, is the best camera I have ever had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #53 Posted June 14, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 5:06 PM, Kozonoh said: You just don't know what Cartier Bresson would have thought about today tools and how he would have used them. And by the way he is just one great photographer among so many. HCB once said-in another context-If I were young again I would shoot digital-in a time that the only digital cameras were a few clunky 2 MP affairs. He was a visionary who embraced the future. I’ll add an aphorism of my own: resolution is a bourgeois concept. If you cannot express your vision in eight million words, you cannot do so in sixty million either. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #54 Posted June 14, 2024 i only have the Q2, but I consider it an excellent travel camera. Of course, I am careful NOT to download firmware updates which were made available after the Q3, because they contain a hidden feature that degrades then performance of the Q2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #55 Posted June 14, 2024 That is an interesting idea. What are you referring to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #56 Posted June 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, jaapv said: That is an interesting idea. What are you referring to? Um, I was trying to make a joke ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #57 Posted June 14, 2024 Ah I missed that one…🥲 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozonoh Posted June 14, 2024 Share #58 Posted June 14, 2024 49 minutes ago, jaapv said: HCB once said-in another context-If I were young again I would shoot digital-in a time that the only digital cameras were a few clunky 2 MP affairs. He was a visionary who embraced the future. I’ll add an aforism of my own: resolution is a bourgeois concept. If you cannot express your vision in eight million words, you cannot do so in sixty million either. I agree with your aphorism. As for hbc embracing the future , if I remember correctly from 1974 till the end of his life he turned his back on photography and returned to painting and pencil drawing in a quite traditional way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feudal1 Posted June 14, 2024 Share #59 Posted June 14, 2024 Love my Q3, great camera and image quality, but it does not replace my Nikon Z8 and 14-24/24-70/70-200 trio. I've shot a ton of photos with both cameras, and for me anyway, they serve two completely different purposes. In a pinch I'll crop the Q3 image, but as others point out, a crop cannot recreate the same perspective and character of a true 35/50/75mm focal length lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2024 Share #60 Posted June 14, 2024 10 hours ago, Feudal1 said: Love my Q3, great camera and image quality, but it does not replace my Nikon Z8 and 14-24/24-70/70-200 trio. I've shot a ton of photos with both cameras, and for me anyway, they serve two completely different purposes. In a pinch I'll crop the Q3 image, but as others point out, a crop cannot recreate the same perspective and character of a true 35/50/75mm focal length lens. Which is a popular misconception but utterly false. I wonder how often we must say this... PERSPECTIVE IS A FUNCTION OF CAMERA-SUBJECT DISTANCE, NOT OF THE LENS. The original 28 mm image Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 70 mm image 28 mm image cropped to 70 mm The only thing that changes is DOF and with an 1.7 lens that is easily equalized. Resolution loss is moot with a high-MP sensor. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 70 mm image 28 mm image cropped to 70 mm The only thing that changes is DOF and with an 1.7 lens that is easily equalized. Resolution loss is moot with a high-MP sensor. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/394914-showcasing-leica-q3-insane-image-abilities/?do=findComment&comment=5347871'>More sharing options...
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