Small, cheap and good af lens for l mount

[Leicaboy Norway]

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And the Lumix lenses do perform good also on the 47 mpx SL2? Seems most are using SL2S

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[BernardC]

1 hour ago, jaapv said:

Leica has been rebranding lenses for many decades. From Sigma, Schneider,  Minolta, etc…

and Angenieux, Zeiss, Kyocera, Novoflex, Panasonic. We don't know which Japanese OEM manufactured the TL lenses, but it's another name to add to the list.

[jaapv]

1 hour ago, Leicaboy Norway said:

And the Lumix lenses do perform good also on the 47 mpx SL2? Seems most are using SL2S

Better obviously, to the general rule of lens and sensor. Both contribute to the image quality. No weakest link situation. 

[Leicaboy Norway]

53 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Better obviously, to the general rule of lens and sensor. Both contribute to the image quality. No weakest link situation. 

So a 50 mm lumix 1.8 is a good buy for a af compact video ready option for leica sl2 you think? I can buy one locally for €250

[BernardC]

4 minutes ago, Leicaboy Norway said:

So a 50 mm lumix 1.8 is a good buy for a af compact video ready option for leica sl2 you think? I can buy one locally for €250

Yes. The whole Lumix 1.8 lineup is a good buy, especially for video. It's worth knowing that video shooters look for "character" and mechanical issues rather than outright resolution. That's because video is limited in resolution (UHD for now, maybe 8K eventually), and because ultra-sharp closeups are rarely flattering.

That's not to say that the Lumix lenses are not sharp, just that sharpness isn't a consideration with most lenses for video.

[Ghiry6591]

I believe that both the Lumix 50/1.8 and the Sigma 50/2 could be a good starting point. Then, when the aesthetic taste is refined, perhaps it will be time to buy the first SL lens (APO please). Proceeding step by step is never wrong, especially in this case: you start with less and get to more, fully enjoying all the nuances of beauty that an SL APO can offer. The Apo-Summicron-SL 35/2 Asph., in my humble opinion one of the most extraordinary lenses ever built in the universe, could be a wonderful achievement of photographic maturity.

[Camaro5]

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I primarily use an SL 35 APO and VE 24-90 on an SL2.  The 35 APO is the best lens I've ever used, and the 24-90 is not far behind.  

I also have 3 Sigma's, a 24/2, a 14-24/2.8, and a 100-400/5.6-6.3.   I use these when the occasion calls for it and they're all excellent.  I did some prints of the Grand Canyon with the 14-24 on A3+ (13x19) metallic paper that came out great.  I have no problem using any of the Sigma's if needed.  

The 24mm DG DN f/2 Sigma is a really nice sharp lens that I use a lot at car shows and if the images will only be used for social media.  It's really compact and also good for street, and the price is very good.  

[jaapv]

One thing: it cannot be used without lens corrections. Strong vignette and mustache distortion are corrected by LUMIX cameras but I don’t know whether Leica does so for video. 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

9 hours ago, Leicaboy Norway said:

And the Lumix lenses do perform good also on the 47 mpx SL2? Seems most are using SL2S

 

6 hours ago, Leicaboy Norway said:

So a 50 mm lumix 1.8 is a good buy for a af compact video ready option for leica sl2 you think? I can buy one locally for €250

Yes.

Lenses aren't rresolution imited. That's an internet myth. The bottom of a Coke bottle will resolve more on a higher resolution body. Some of my XCD lenses arent nearly as strong as my APO Summicrons but the X2D system out resolves the SL3 easily. It's more like unrealised potential than a fixed number. It's a system thing. Improve a lens. Get more detail. Up a resolution count. Get more detail. Lenses are usually the better investment though.

The Panasonic 1.8's aren't best in class in resolving details but they're still very good. You won't get *better* photos with another lens. I have 4 APO Summicrons but I often take a Sigma or Panasonic out as size matters, sometimes and I get great files.

The Panasonic 1.8's are optimised for video. They're breathing corrected and a matched set for cages and gimbals. They has little focus breathing. They resolve 8K video nicely and they have smooth quiet focus motors.

The Sigma *i* lenses prioritise stills over video. They have a bit more resolving power (except the 45), aperture rings etc. They're also generally smaller and lighter than the Pannys.

The APO Summicrons are the best set of matched primes ever made, IMHO. They sacrificed everything else for optical greatness. With these you're chasing miniMF image quality. But you need deep pockets and no one else will notice how good they are, except you because you're the only one who'll see the files next to *lesser* lenses.

Having said all that, choosing lenses based purely on resolving power is a bit of a blunt, un-nuanced approach to lens selection. It's an *easy* measure but it's not the only measure of a lens. A lot of sophistocated photographers choose lenses on how they draw or the balance between sharpness and blur. Colour consistancy. Fall off characteristics. Lense like the M Noctilux  f 1.2 or the Zeiss Sonnar 1.5 exist because of everything else except resolution and CA control. The Sigma 45mm 2.8 is like this in L mount. The Summilux 50 SL. It's a long long list.

There are no bad choices here. Just subtle differences that might make you go one way or the other. I like aperture rings. Makes the Sigmas an easy choice.I also like 100mm lenses so I got the mini macro from Panasonic. When I'm shooting to print at A0 I'll use the APO Summicrons. The L mount's strongest thing is it's options. You get to build your kit based on what matters to you. You can have differnt lenses of the same focal length and speed just for the different look they have. Don't worry about us. Choose what works for you.

Gordon

[Leicaboy Norway]

8 hours ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

 

Yes.

Lenses aren't rresolution imited. That's an internet myth. The bottom of a Coke bottle will resolve more on a higher resolution body. Some of my XCD lenses arent nearly as strong as my APO Summicrons but the X2D system out resolves the SL3 easily. It's more like unrealised potential than a fixed number. It's a system thing. Improve a lens. Get more detail. Up a resolution count. Get more detail. Lenses are usually the better investment though.

The Panasonic 1.8's aren't best in class in resolving details but they're still very good. You won't get *better* photos with another lens. I have 4 APO Summicrons but I often take a Sigma or Panasonic out as size matters, sometimes and I get great files.

The Panasonic 1.8's are optimised for video. They're breathing corrected and a matched set for cages and gimbals. They has little focus breathing. They resolve 8K video nicely and they have smooth quiet focus motors.

The Sigma *i* lenses prioritise stills over video. They have a bit more resolving power (except the 45), aperture rings etc. They're also generally smaller and lighter than the Pannys.

The APO Summicrons are the best set of matched primes ever made, IMHO. They sacrificed everything else for optical greatness. With these you're chasing miniMF image quality. But you need deep pockets and no one else will notice how good they are, except you because you're the only one who'll see the files next to *lesser* lenses.

Having said all that, choosing lenses based purely on resolving power is a bit of a blunt, un-nuanced approach to lens selection. It's an *easy* measure but it's not the only measure of a lens. A lot of sophistocated photographers choose lenses on how they draw or the balance between sharpness and blur. Colour consistancy. Fall off characteristics. Lense like the M Noctilux  f 1.2 or the Zeiss Sonnar 1.5 exist because of everything else except resolution and CA control. The Sigma 45mm 2.8 is like this in L mount. The Summilux 50 SL. It's a long long list.

There are no bad choices here. Just subtle differences that might make you go one way or the other. I like aperture rings. Makes the Sigmas an easy choice.I also like 100mm lenses so I got the mini macro from Panasonic. When I'm shooting to print at A0 I'll use the APO Summicrons. The L mount's strongest thing is it's options. You get to build your kit based on what matters to you. You can have differnt lenses of the same focal length and speed just for the different look they have. Don't worry about us. Choose what works for you.

Gordon

Thank you! And I agree. Sharpness isn't my first priority. Color is, then a base resolving power and falloff, characteristics etc. Many modern lenses look to sterile though to me. Less art, more precise 

[Leicaboy Norway]

Got a cheap Lumix 50 1.8 yesterday and was very surprised by how good it actually was on my SL2 as it´s so far my only AF prime! Shot an event today and I even think I see some "pop" in some of the images.