Summicron 50 mm dual range with goggles

[Klassika]

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Hello Leica users,

i would like to know if the Leica 50mm dual range with goggles will function on the Leica M11. This is an unmodified sample lens.

is there any risk of damaging the body while attaching the lens to the body? I know that previous M’s like M10 will give problems.

I read that if you want to use the close focus option on the M11 you have to unmount the lens, then put the goggles on and then mount the lens again to the body to use the close focus range in combination with the Visoflex 2. Is this correct?

I also read somewhere that you can attach the lens on the M11 without problems because the mount is different from the other digital M bodys. Again is this correct?

 

Many thanks in advance,

 

greetings and good light,

 

Klassika.

 

 

 

 

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[Ryzebake]

Hi Klassika, 

I own a 50mm DR with goggles and it is my most used lens on my M11M. The 50mm DR and Rigid Crons render beautifully in B&W, it's really something special. 

My lens mounts without issue as long as the focus is set to infinity before attaching or detaching. My copy will not mount unless focus is set to infinity. 

I never use the goggles and you do not need the goggles to switch to close focus on the M11M. On my copy I simply lift the lens into close focus mode and press the button on top of the lens once to unlock the close focusing range. I use live-view from there on out. If you prefer to use the goggles and viewfinder, this is of course still an option.

As far as I'm aware you can use the 50mm dual range without modification on the M11 series, whereas previously you needed to shave off part of the mount to allow for full focusing range. This is due to the new sensor design. 

All the above is based on my personal 50mm DR copy, which as far as I'm aware was not modified in any way. It is possible others have had different experiences but I'm fairly certain this should apply to any unmodified 50mm dual range and M11 series camera. 

Hope this helps! 

Best, 

A. 

 

[S Maclean]

I believe this is correct.  There should be no issue with the M11 because the metering is straight from the sensor rather than the lens.  It is this element that was conlficting on other bodies.

 

That's my research on this item.  I am waiting for my DR to arrive to test

 

[lct]

I have no experience with this lens but the manual says it is incompatible. Just for info:

LeicaM11_manual_34_lens.pdf

[Churro]

I also use a dual range summicron on my M11M and agree with everything Ryzebake said. Except I don’t need to only mount mine at infinity. I had read it needed to be past the 2 meter mark so that’s what I’ve always done without issue. 

[Klassika]

Thanks all for your answers. I use it now on my silver M11 without problems, it gives a very nostagic look and feeling. It reminds me of the M3 which I had back in the day with the Rigid.

[S Maclean]

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I can confirm it wors 100% witht the M11. On my copy I have to set the focus to 1 m to mount.  After that you can use with or without goggles for close range. Goggles work well, but using the EVF or the screen works even better. IQ is phenomenal.

[MatthiasE]

On 6/15/2024 at 1:45 AM, S Maclean said:

I can confirm it wors 100% witht the M11. On my copy I have to set the focus to 1 m to mount.  After that you can use with or without goggles for close range. Goggles work well, but using the EVF or the screen works even better. IQ is phenomenal.

And there is no damage to the camera? 

[lct]

1 hour ago, MatthiasE said:

And there is no damage to the camera? 

None when mounting the 50/2 DR at infinity. I don't use the goggles though. Perfect old lens for the M11, to me:

 

[MatthiasE]

27 minutes ago, lct said:

None when mounting the 50/2 DR at infinity. I don't use the goggles though. Perfect old lens for the M11, to me:

 

Thank you!

[DadDadDaddyo]

My Dual Range lives on an M4.

Just seems right there.

It's a nice reminder to shoot film from time to time...

[S Maclean]

On 12/10/2024 at 3:15 AM, MatthiasE said:

And there is no damage to the camera? 

No damage, just don't force it in. In my case I set it to 1 M, it seems other set it to infinity. Just work out how a specific copy mounts in case there is any difference in alignment copy to copy.

 

Great lens.

 

I actually sold my copy along with a few other things to cover the cost of the SL system (which is also great btw) It is the one lens I whish I had kept though.