Leica M11-P NYC edition

[RMF]

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Just an as an FYI - for those that like unique cameras I was a Leica’s grand opening of their new NYC Meatpacking district boutique and they have for sale a handful of M11-P that they had made up using the Reporter’s Kevlar to commemorate their opening. They were in silver and black and I was told they only had a few made up- same price as an M11-P. They had both silver in black when I was there a couple days ago.

Beautiful new store and well worth stopping by if you are near/visiting NYC.

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Edited March 24, 2024 by RMF

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[Al Brown]

Pssst.
Kevlar® is the trademarked brand name for the fiber made by DuPont. It is prohibited to call it Kevlar now. Lots written on the forum. Wertzlar now cautiously calls it "Aramid". No joke.

As the owner of last M10-P Reporter made in the entire Universe and Beverly Hills I feel kinda sorry for anyone getting these M11-Ps. Not only will they possibly have freezes and corrupt DNGs (hoping for the best, fingers crossed), the camera's aramid skin will start to fray after a year or so, just like on the reporters.

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Edited March 24, 2024 by Al Brown

[dugby]

Ahh but surely to a reporter with a knife wound or bullet ricochet damage to their aramid body armour is a badge of honour in getting their stories ……

[LeicaR10]

The special skinned "Aramid" (aka Kevlar) M11-P Reporter in NYC, LA, SF, CHI, DC, is definitely a must have....

Edited March 25, 2024 by LeicaR10

[Herr Barnack]

3 minutes ago, LeicaR10 said:

The special skinned "Aramid" (aka Kevlar) M11-P Reporter in NYC is needed more than ever there....

Here's hoping the "Aramid" used is level IIIA compliant.  Street photographers may need level III+. 😳

[LeicaR10]

Herr Barnack...I would expect nothing less from Leica...you can bet your life on it too...errr maybe not....LOL.  r/ Mark

Edited March 25, 2024 by LeicaR10

[Al Brown]

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On 3/25/2024 at 12:32 AM, dugby said:

Ahh but surely to a reporter with a knife wound or bullet ricochet damage to their aramid body armour is a badge of honour in getting their stories ……

Not if the reporter does it to his M11-P body himself. Freezing rage and corrupted images anger during assignments are a serious thing.

Edited March 26, 2024 by Al Brown

[LocalHero1953]

Not all aramid-covered bodies fray. My Q2, heavily used for the last couple of years, is still unframed, though the green is turning to pale green-grey (as was advised at the time).

[Al Brown]

On 3/26/2024 at 7:15 PM, LocalHero1953 said:

Not all aramid-covered bodies fray. My Q2, heavily used for the last couple of years, is still unframed, though the green is turning to pale green-grey (as was advised at the time).

You must have some stellar aramid fiber, this user shows what others also confirm: https://imgur.com/a/3yMHFHB

Edited March 28, 2024 by Al Brown

[LocalHero1953]

45 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

You must have some stellar aramid fiber, this user shows what others also confirm: https://imgur.com/a/3yMHFHB

That's been the oddity all along - plenty of people with both good and bad experiences.
My suspicion is that it's not the fibre that's a problem, but how it is fixed - perhaps insufficient attention given to adhesive along the cut edges.

Edited March 28, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[dkmoore]

At least they kept the price the same. Only good thing. 

[brill64]

A little touch-up with matt-black paint around the edges should solve it🙂

[wizard]

Am 24.3.2024 um 18:35 schrieb Al Brown:

It is prohibited to call it Kevlar now

Only if it isn't Kevlar, that is, if it is not made by or from Dupont materials. Else, you may of course call Kevlar Kevlar. As with other trademarks, adding an "®" after using a trademark is always good practise (to make clear that the term in question is in fact a trademark).

[Al Brown]

6 minutes ago, wizard said:

Only if it isn't Kevlar, that is, if it is not made by or from Dupont materials. Else, you may of course call Kevlar Kevlar. As with other trademarks, adding an "®" after using a trademark is always good practise (to make clear that the term in question is in fact a trademark).

Leica removed the term "Kevlar®" silently from all their official press materials and replaced it with "Aramid" - hence my statement. Here are the DuPont Kevlar® official USAGE GUIDELINES. The name cannot be used without a trademark agreement license. Any reference to the Kevlar® trademark may subject a company to brand protection enforcement action.

[Kwesi]

I think its time to rethink the oversized screw for the  M "P" and Monochrom versions.

 

[Al Brown]

1 minute ago, Kwesi said:

I think its time to rethink the oversized screw for the  M "P" and Monochrom versions.

 

But that screw has to be there for the RF adjustment opening... before it was hidden under the red dot logo, but some people thought the red dot made their cameras prone to theft (sic.) and thus the screw was born.

[Kwesi]

21 hours ago, Al Brown said:

But that screw has to be there for the RF adjustment opening... before it was hidden under the red dot logo, but some people thought the red dot made their cameras prone to theft (sic.) and thus the screw was born.

I hear you. The M9-P. implementation was in my opinion more elegant. I feel that losing the illumination window in the move from M9 to M240 series created a "need to fill this space" problem for Leica's design team. The first attempt was the oversized red dot and the convex screw of the 240 series. then came the M10 with the standard red dot and the flat oversized screw that we have today that has become a standard but somewhat superfluous/overdesigned  design element. I would love to see Leica go back to either the M9P screw or something smaller and not be so overly concerned with filling the space that used to house the illumination window.

[Budfox]

16 hours ago, Kwesi said:

I hear you. The M9-P. implementation was in my opinion more elegant. I feel that losing the illumination window in the move from M9 to M240 series created a "need to fill this space" problem for Leica's design team. The first attempt was the oversized red dot and the convex screw of the 240 series. then came the M10 with the standard red dot and the flat oversized screw that we have today that has become a standard but somewhat superfluous/overdesigned  design element. I would love to see Leica go back to either the M9P screw or something smaller and not be so overly concerned with filling the space that used to house the illumination window.

How about a nice emoji instead of the screw - you could customise the same as your Apple IPod case?

Seriously, I like the industrial design with the screw left proudly on display.

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[Kwesi]

What’s an iPod gramps? 😀

I honestly don’t mind the screw at all I just wish its size was closer to that of the film M’s so it looks more functional and less decorative. Anyway enough said. Let’s get back to the actual topic at hand. 

[Budfox]

21 hours ago, Kwesi said:

What’s an iPod gramps? 😀

I honestly don’t mind the screw at all I just wish its size was closer to that of the film M’s so it looks more functional and less decorative. Anyway enough said. Let’s get back to the actual topic at hand. 

Agreed - sorry about my relatively lame joke!

Edited April 7, 2024 by Budfox