Advice on longer focal length options to complement/replace Q2

[Le Chef]

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44 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

I wish there was a way to switch between Face Detect and Spot or Field at the press of a button, without faffing with the menu. 

Then buy a Fuji and get used to looking through menus and searching for buttons.

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[Le Chef]

10 minutes ago, Qwertynm said:

Having to resort to a workaround is not really a display of brilliant functionality of a camera, is it 😂

It’s a shortcut - the workaround and around, and around again is sorting through endless menus and searching for which button does what. By then the decisive moment has gone. Hence the Leica focus on simplicity rather than trying to impress with complexity.

[Simone_DF]

12 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

Then buy a Fuji and get used to looking through menus and searching for buttons.

So you say the Leica is better because it takes longer to access a function through faffing around in the menu?

[Olaf_ZG]

Please stop attacking anything on any Q in this forum please. It will only result in diehards trying to pursue that everybody is wrong. The Q is the way. Sounds like a religion, but some people take it like this.

[Simone_DF]

I'm not attacking the Q, which I think it's an excellent camera, I'm just confused by the notion that faffing around in the menu is better than a single button click. I think it's one of the most un-Leica things ever. I always thought that the core of Leica design was Das Wesentliche, aka the essential, aka the camera should not be in the way of a shoot.

Let's see the two options:

Leica: click on the Menu button --> scroll and click on the User Profile --> scroll and select your user profile from Face Detect to Field --> depress the shutter button halfway to close the menu and engage the shot

Also Leica: click on Menu button --> scroll and click on the Focus mode button --> scroll to the left to select Field --> depress the shutter button halfway to close the menu and engage the shot

Other brands: click on a user customized button to disengage Face Detect --> depress the shutter button to shoot

 

Which one of these options is the most essential and less distracting for a photographer?

Perhaps it's the Leica UI designers that should take a lesson from the other brands.

Edited February 26, 2024 by Simone_DF

[Le Chef]

1 hour ago, Simone_DF said:

So you say the Leica is better because it takes longer to access a function through faffing around in the menu?

I'm saying it's my preference. You may choose something else that works better for you.

[Le Chef]

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17 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

Which one of these options is the most essential and less distracting for a photographer?

Clicking on the profile, because it can change much more than how the camera focuses from minimum shutter speed to exposure reading to ISO to type of shutter etc.

Q.How many buttons do you need to change all those components?

A. Ask your haberdasher.

It's a personal choice. You're not going to convince me of anything, but if you want to keep wasting your time trying to convince me that Fuji is better that's up to you.

[Le Chef]

1 hour ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Please stop attacking anything on any Q in this forum please. It will only result in diehards trying to pursue that everybody is wrong. The Q is the way. Sounds like a religion, but some people take it like this.

As I keep saying it's a personal choice. I'm not going to agree with you, and you're not going to agree with me. If you prefer something else and think it's better than the Q that's your choice, not mine.

[Simone_DF]

9 hours ago, Le Chef said:

Clicking on the profile, because it can change much more than how the camera focuses from minimum shutter speed to exposure reading to ISO to type of shutter etc.

Q.How many buttons do you need to change all those components?

A. Ask your haberdasher.

It's a personal choice. You're not going to convince me of anything, but if you want to keep wasting your time trying to convince me that Fuji is better that's up to you.

But I only need to change 1 thing, not multiple components. The funny thing is that the Q has already a physical focus switcher, the AF/MF switch on the lens barrel. Wish that switch was user customizable, so that I can set it up to switch between Field and Face Detect, since I never use manual focus except some very rare occurrence.

To me faffing around with the menu leads to missed shots. And, to me, muscle memory leads to more shots, since I don't have to even look at the camera to change something. The M was great in that regard, a dial for the iso, aperture on the lens, right dial configured for exp compensation and you're good to go. Too bad it doesn't have AF though. But we are all different, I guess.

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3 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

But I only need to change 1 thing, not multiple components. The funny thing is that the Q has already a physical focus switcher, the AF/MF switch on the lens barrel. Wish that switch was user customizable, so that I can set it up to switch between Field and Face Detect, since I never use manual focus except some very rare occurrence.

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I agree, My Sony a7cII, in its default settings, sets one button to immediately change from any AF mode to centre focus. It's incredibly useful and would be particularly useful for the the Q3 where the viewfinder lights up like a Christmas tree when three or more people are detected.

It should be easy for Leica to provide that I would have thought, and would not mean any more complexity in the menus.

[Simone_DF]

Yes, that's the kind of situation where I most want this function available. When there's more than 2 people in the frame, Face Detect goes banana, and I have to resort to Spot or Field.

You don't even need an additional button, I'd be happy to use one of the available buttons for this option. For example I could replace the crop button on the Q or one of the two top buttons on the SL.

Sometimes I have the feeling that the Leica engineers have never used the camera to take pictures in real life situations. 

Edited February 27, 2024 by Simone_DF

[Qwertynm]

Please tell them here: customer.care@leica-camera.com

the Q3 has the potential to be an even better camera than it already is. But the firmware needs some serious work

[tji]

I’ve been following this topic with interest.  One of many reasons I moved to the Q2 was to simplify my setup, and reduce kit weight for travel and hiking. With cropping, the Q2 covers 90+% of my preferred range. But a telephoto option would be useful from time to time. I’m consider the Sony RX100 VII to keep things small and light. The alternative would be to get a Fujifilm 55-200 for my (currently unused) X-T2. The latter is obviously larger and heavier, but has a larger sensor. I’m curious if anyone has any experience as to relative image quality between these two options; in particular, whether the Fuji approach is worth the significant size/weight increase. I appreciate that this is a pretty personal decision, but am interested in any insights you may have. 

[JohnSantaF4]

On 2/20/2024 at 3:52 AM, Rsure said:

Hi all, I love travel (/landscape) photography and sold all my Nikon gear (D810 and lenses) to move to a Leica Q2 a couple of years ago. The reason was primarily that it was a pain to carry all my Nikon gear everywhere. I have enjoyed using the Q2 but have reached a point where I am missing having the option of longer focal lengths. Most recently on a trip to Italy I felt like I missed a lot of nice shots when faced with the vast Tuscan landscapes and the beautiful Dolomites, among others. While I did get some decent shots I really missed having a longer focal length lens.

I am planning to travel to Iceland this summer and am dreading going there with just my Q2 and really want to have an option for longer focal lengths. I love the feel and quality of Leica camera builds and would ideally like to stay within the Leica world. I'd like to stick to a budget of ~$6-$7K if possible. I will add that I am not interested in taking any videos at all and not interested in shooting speed as well. Weight is a consideration though (but not sure how to avoid SL!). I'm thinking of a few possible options:

1.  Buy a used SL2 and zoom lens (Elmarit 24-70?) and use that in addition to my Q2

2. Buy a used SL2S and zoom lens and use that in addition to my Q2

3. Sell the Q2 and wait for SL3 and buy that as an only camera

4. Buy a used M10/M10-R and a 90mm lens and use that in addition to my Q2

5. Buy a used M10-R/M11 and a couple of used lenses (maybe 24mm and 90mm?) and sell the Q2

Can you'll please give me some advice on how to go about this? While not my first option I am open to suggestions on non-Leica cameras as well if that can offer a good solution.

Thanks!

My dilemma is I want a q3 plus a used SL2-S with the 24-70. But that's a big investment.

Edited March 6, 2024 by JohnSantaF4

[Qwertynm]

Am 6.3.2024 um 23:52 schrieb JohnSantaF4:

My dilemma is I want a q3 plus a used SL2-S with the 24-70. But that's a big investment.

why would you want two cameras that cover almost exactly the same focal lengths?

[JohnSantaF4]

7 hours ago, Qwertynm said:

why would you want two cameras that cover almost exactly the same focal lengths?

User interface and portability.

[JohnSantaF4]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:43 PM, Le Chef said:

Clicking on the profile, because it can change much more than how the camera focuses from minimum shutter speed to exposure reading to ISO to type of shutter etc.

Q.How many buttons do you need to change all those components?

A. Ask your haberdasher.

It's a personal choice. You're not going to convince me of anything, but if you want to keep wasting your time trying to convince me that Fuji is better that's up to you.

What’s the rub against Fuji? 

[Le Chef]

1 hour ago, JohnSantaF4 said:

What’s the rub against Fuji? 

What I said.

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[Qwertynm]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb JohnSantaF4:

User interface and portability.

SL2 (user interface) and Q3 (portability)? Like this? Otherwise I don’t get it. I could understand Q3 and Sl-2 with s 75 or 90 primelens but why the zoom that focers the dame range as the Q3?