Are vintage lenses losing their vintageness on the latest sensors

[shirubadanieru]

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1 hour ago, frame-it said:

so your very definitive comment cannot be confirmed.

 

 

That’s ok lol I’m sharing my experience in the forum, that’s all. Not forcing you nor anyone else to believe what I’m saying, and each person has their own personal tastes / experiences as I mentioned, so take this as my own experience and nothing else, and if you disagree with it or your experience is different, great, share yours then. Or for someone who has never tried the camera and is hearing several different options, I recommend they visit a Leica shop and test their vintage lenses with a M11 demo body, by shooting a few shots with high contrast situations to test for CA / Purple fringing.

Edited March 3, 2024 by shirubadanieru

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[frame-it]

25 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said:

That’s ok lol I’m sharing my experience in the forum, that’s all. Not forcing you nor anyone else to believe what I’m saying

sure  but its better to share your experience with a proper photo comparison , same subject, same lighting, same lens on different cameras

[250swb]

1 hour ago, costa43 said:

You can get close with the colours  maybe but there is a difference to the look of the image on those earlier sensors to my eye. 

The M8 and M9 had CCD sensors so yes the look is different but seriously would anybody put money on which photo was which after some post processing? And why should they care if it's a good photo? The exactitude you require is absurd given the number of variables introduced by the lens, the situation, and the photographers technique.

[costa43]

54 minutes ago, 250swb said:

The M8 and M9 had CCD sensors so yes the look is different but seriously would anybody put money on which photo was which after some post processing? And why should they care if it's a good photo? The exactitude you require is absurd given the number of variables introduced by the lens, the situation, and the photographers technique.

Agreed, no one would care and barely anyone would be able to tell the difference but it’s for me more than anyone else. I’m the camera nerd 😊 

[sometimesmaybe]

18 hours ago, onomatopoet said:

What are we taking pictures for? To see the magenta fringing on backlight tree branches?

dont forget about brick walls...

[Mr.Kite]

Am 3.3.2024 um 09:21 schrieb Al Brown:

Any ultra modern lens on ultra modern sensor can be mechanically (optically, not in post) "vintaged". I have been intensely exploring this process lately. I obviously cannot replicate coma + astigmatism (the "butterfly" effect) of the edges of fast pre-asph summiluxes, but the glow, slight softness and tenderness of contrast can be controlled pretty well. I use a Tiffen SOFT FX 2 filter, which not only increases halation and reduces contrast, but also reduces the resolution of the lens to the still acceptable (for me) level. I can thus produce an exact perfect (to me) '70s Leica lens looking image with the elements that matter the most (to me) and am able to avoid those that I did not like (like the butterfly coma and astigmatism and smeared edges).
The photo below was done on modern M10-R and modern Summilux 35 FLE wide open with the filter. No other process to the image but color grading with a LUT.
The only downside of using such a filter: Bokeh balls have a rough texture (often we see this in movies and series as well, check the one to the right of her eye) and the filter sometimes projects mirrored & flipped highlights onto the image (not here).

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This looks legit. Do you happen to have some more examples for the Soft FX 2Filter combined with modern Leica lenses?

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vor 14 Minuten schrieb Al Brown:

I do. I use Soft FX, Glimmerglass, Smoque and black promist filters, but the latter is really easily duplicated in Photoshop. These images however are with Soft FX 2 filters + FLE.

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Thank you. Looks swell, especially the last one. So if I wanted to tip a toe into the "vintagesize" water, ordering a Soft FX 2 wouldn't be a mistake, right? Or which of those filters you mentioned do you like the most/ use the most?

[Sebastian S]

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb Al Brown:

Tiffen has a very distinct categorization about their filters doing what we need them to do. Depends on whether you need contrast reduction, halation or sharpness/resolution reduction. The latter is SOFT FX's category.

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Thanks again.

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On 8/25/2024 at 4:56 AM, Al Brown said:

I do. I use Soft FX, Glimmerglass, Smoque and black promist filters, but the latter is really easily duplicated in Photoshop. These images however are with Soft FX 2 filters + FLE.

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This filter has a 77mm front thread?