Lightroom or Capture one or another system per leica Q3?

[angelo rosana]

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I recently got a Leica Q3 and I'm undecided between Lightroom Classic, which allows me to manage the photo archive, and Capture One. 
I underline that I am an amateur photographer.

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[jaapv]

Purely. a matter of personal preference. I always revert to Photoshop.

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[vitrail]

Hello,

Capture One is simpler, more user-friendly, more powerful, and more comprehensive in terms of masks and color corrections than LR.
In addition, C1 can display more content from the image of the Summilux (26mm).
Lightroom and PS are superior in terms of retouching and deletion (especially with AI), archiving and printing modules.

Edited January 14, 2024 by vitrail

[jaapv]

Well, it is easy to switch between LR and PS for more complicated work.  I used C1 for years before I switched to Photoshop and never looked back. I disliked the UI of Lightroom from the beginning. Nowadays I like to recommend ON1 to beginners as being easy to start with, but quite comprehensive further on in the learning curve. And it has many excellent instructional videos on its website.

The 26 mm content of the Q3 is of low quality, and can be displayed in LR as well. 

So it really boils down to personal preference. 

[vitrail]

The 26 mm content of the Q3 is of low quality, and can be displayed in LR as well. 

Yes PureRaw de DxO is better.

[jaapv]

Certainly for DNG conversion. I am no fan of the editing part so I bring the file into ACR/PS including Topaz plugins for the rest of my workflow. 

[VoxFabiani]

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I am also an amateur and had the same hesitations. I opted for Capture One and am happy with it. Its interface remains relatively simple for an amateur. And the possibility of having a "lifetime" license and not a monthly subscription was a decisive element for me.

[JNK100]

DXO Photolab works very well and does.mot require a subscription. To my eyes, the noise reduction is the best available.

[jaapv]

32 minutes ago, VoxFabiani said:

I am also an amateur and had the same hesitations. I opted for Capture One and am happy with it. Its interface remains relatively simple for an amateur. And the possibility of having a "lifetime" license and not a monthly subscription was a decisive element for me.

C1 updates are quite expensive...

[VoxFabiani]

11 minutes ago, jaapv said:

C1 updates are quite expensive...

Yes but you can buy a licence for one version and keep this version for years... especially when you are an amateur, there is not necessarily a need to upgrade. I paid 145 € (black friday promotion) for a perpetual license of C1 that I'll keep for years, for me it's a better solution than a monthly subscription 😉

Edited January 14, 2024 by VoxFabiani

[ianforber]

I use C1 because I never got on with LR. I use Topaz and Nik Effects as plug ins and they work very well.  My only irritation is that I can’t do the same with DxO PureRaw 3, unlike LR. PR3 seems to be much better at rescuing poor qualities images but you need to run the DNG through it first before working on it, rather than just doing a round trip from C1.  My current workflow is therefore to import into C1 and if I find an image that I want to put through PR3, then export the original DNG (eg to the desktop) and run it through PR3, which to be fair does then allow you to save it directly into C1. 

I'm sticking with C1 though as Topaz is good enough to sort out most images. 

[reynoldsyoung]

6 hours ago, vitrail said:

Hello,

Capture One is simpler, more user-friendly, more powerful, and more comprehensive in terms of masks and color corrections than LR.
In addition, C1 can display more content from the image of the Summilux (26mm).
Lightroom and PS are superior in terms of retouching and deletion (especially with AI), archiving and printing modules.

There's the answer...Capture One...and no monthly subscription 

[pcgarner]

The entire DxO suite is superb. I used PS for years, then did a trial of DxO and immediately dropped PS and its subscription lockup. 

[jps1]

 

I have tried several software over several years, Photoshop, Lightroom, DXO and others...

For a few years I have been using Capture One, it is powerful and I like its ergonomics and I hate that of Lightroom, DXO and company.

If you like software and are good with it, the subscription the license does not play.

Everyone has their own sensitivity.

[SAronian]

I had preferred a combination of LrC & Photoshop. But with the Q3 I've found DxO PureRaw 3 offers a different approach when applying Software Lens Corrections which I prefer. See the attached image and note how Photoshop and PureRaw 3's crops differ.

 

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[jaapv]

The corrections are not a simple crop like you are applying in DXO - it involves pixel shifting and distortion correction. The Photoshop version is the correct one; look, for instance, at the lower edge of the gate: distorted in both DXO versions. If you look very carefully you can see that it is even visible near the centre, the PS one looks more flat and less protruding in the middle.The detail in the cooler things and roof edge is better defined, even on these small jpgs.

[jaapv]

5 hours ago, VoxFabiani said:

Yes but you can buy a licence for one version and keep this version for years... especially when you are an amateur, there is not necessarily a need to upgrade. I paid 145 € (black friday promotion) for a perpetual license of C1 that I'll keep for years, for me it's a better solution than a monthly subscription 😉

So much has been improved over the last few years that the results from all postprocessing programs are visibly better than a few years ago, not specifically through AI, but the basic algorithms. And the pace is accelerating.
Redoing old DNGs from for instance PS6 in PS2024 is shocking.
Not updating means falling behind in IQ. Adobe's subscription model is one of the most economical ways to keep up to date.
However, different strokes for different folks. As long as you are happy with your results, everything is fine.  

I don't understand, though, that people upgrade to newer cameras with "better" sensors all the time spending many thousands of Dollars/Euros every few years and then baulk at 15$ per month for something that provides at least half of the quality of their images and improves constantly...

[jaapv]

2 hours ago, reynoldsyoung said:

Capture One is simpler, more user-friendly, more powerful, and more comprehensive in terms of masks and color corrections than LR

I am not a fan of LR, like you, and will not use it unless unavoidable, but I see very little difference in these aspects between the latest iterations of these programs with LR slightly in the lead by the introduction of "enhance", automatic masking and more elaborate layers, and extra colour controls. More like a game of leapfrog.

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[jaapv]

6 hours ago, VoxFabiani said:

Yes but you can buy a licence for one version and keep this version for years... especially when you are an amateur, there is not necessarily a need to upgrade. I paid 145 € (black friday promotion) for a perpetual license of C1 that I'll keep for years, for me it's a better solution than a monthly subscription 😉

Read this thread - perpetual appears to be a rather limited period.

 

[luetz]

There are 2 options when it comes to "editing software" and falls into the "subscription" model or "so-called" perpetual category.  Subscription provides regular up-dates without additional cost and perpetual requires some costs (varies) for up-dates.

Depending on your geographical location, subscription software cost can vary (largely) and make the outlay per month, prohibitive.   In my area a Lightroom Classic(Photographer Plan) is  $12.99 CDN per month (or the price of 2 Starbucks).

Most importantly once you decide, stick with it and become proficient at using all the features.