Q2 Manual Focus via FOTOS 'Remote' control

[Phil1066]

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Hope someone can help explain how this works. Basically what I want to do is (pre) zone focus via the lens controls - then just trigger the shutter using the Remote function in the App. 

But it seems like manual focus is over-ridden by the Remote function in the App, and all it wants to do is focus before allowing the shutter to release....

I did raise a ticket inside the app as I just couldnt work out how to do it the way I wanted phew.

[Phil1066]

Bump

[Hans-Dieter Gülicher]

I got my Q2 in 2019 and tried to use the manual focus but it does not function as expected. I don`t know the reason. So I switched over to automatic and everything was okay. In the meantime I am a convinced manual M 10-R user (like my M3 from 1955).

[Marc B-C]

I may not have understood the OP. Are you saying that if the lens is put into manual focus the app overrides it (I struggle to believe that)? Or that the app will not allow you to take a photo unless the camera is in autofocus? I have never used the app.

No idea either as to what you are looking to photograph but would manual focus and the camera self timer work for you?

I have no issues with manual focus on my Q2. 

[Phil1066]

14 hours ago, Marc B-C said:

I may not have understood the OP. Are you saying that if the lens is put into manual focus the app overrides it (I struggle to believe that)? Or that the app will not allow you to take a photo unless the camera is in autofocus? I have never used the app.

No idea either as to what you are looking to photograph but would manual focus and the camera self timer work for you?

I have no issues with manual focus on my Q2. 

I just double checked again 🙂 what I want to be able to do is have manual control on focus on the camera, but use the Fotos App to trigger the shutter. 
 

if I try and do that, after pre focusing using the lens, when I use the Apps shutter button, it refocuses and takes the photo. 
 

the App overrides the manual function of the lens, in my tests. :-)

[Marc B-C]

@Phil1066 you may want to double check the lens is being set to manual focus properly. I could easily be wrong but if the lens is set to manual focus it surely must decouple the motor and the app cannot therefore force it to refocus. As I do not use the app I cannot check. Perhaps someone else can confirm. 

[Pelu2010]

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Hey 👋,

I just checked it. I can make any adjustments to the lens even put it out of focus. When I hit the exposure button on the app it makes the unshared image. 
 

But the app calculates the be image if you prefocus, or focus. You get a rotating circle that at the end stops and you are free to shoot. 
 

Note that you can also always shoot with the camera too (shutter button on the camera) , so you can use the app or iPhone as a bigger screen. 
 

I used this for run and gun shots. 
 

So no, I can’t reproduce your problem. 
 

which firmware are you on ? 
are we speaking of the q3 ? 
 

cheers Peter 

[Phil1066]

11 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Hey 👋,

I just checked it. I can make any adjustments to the lens even put it out of focus. When I hit the exposure button on the app it makes the unshared image. 
 

But the app calculates the be image if you prefocus, or focus. You get a rotating circle that at the end stops and you are free to shoot. 
 

Note that you can also always shoot with the camera too (shutter button on the camera) , so you can use the app or iPhone as a bigger screen. 
 

I used this for run and gun shots. 
 

So no, I can’t reproduce your problem. 
 

which firmware are you on ? 
are we speaking of the q3 ? 
 

cheers Peter 

Thanks Peter - this is Q2 and on the latest Firmware

[Rosse]

On 1/16/2024 at 5:13 AM, Phil1066 said:

I just double checked again 🙂 what I want to be able to do is have manual control on focus on the camera, but use the Fotos App to trigger the shutter. 
 

if I try and do that, after pre focusing using the lens, when I use the Apps shutter button, it refocuses and takes the photo. 
 

the App overrides the manual function of the lens, in my tests. :-)

I'm  having the same problem as you. Dis you came up with a solution?

[Phil1066]

3 hours ago, Rosse said:

I'm  having the same problem as you. Dis you came up with a solution?

No solution unless Leica fixes this. Suggest you report a Bug or Feature request inside the FOTOS app itself - that may help.

[Rosse]

32 minutes ago, Phil1066 said:

No solution unless Leica fixes this. Suggest you report a Bug or Feature request inside the FOTOS app itself - that may help.

What a bummer. I'll do that. Thanks for the advice.

[Mr.ry]

Got the same issue and will reference this in the Q2 images thread so hopefully more people get in touch with Leica.

[Aram Langhans]

This is so odd.  I had a Q2 but never used it linked to an app.  Now I have a Q3 and after seeing Mr.ry's comments in the Q2 images and here I thought I would give it a try.  I pared my Q3 with Fotos and too a few shots and it worked as planned. It would focus the camera wherever I touched on the screen and then I would take the shot.  Perfect.

Next I put the camera in manual focus and focused to a close range.  I then poked around on the screen to see if it would change the focus and it did not.  Just as I expected, since the manual focus on the lens is totally mechanical.  I then looked to see as I rotated the focus ring on the lens what happened on the phone and it worked just fine.  I could focus manually just as looking through the EVF.  When I rotated the ring, the view would zoom in to the focus point and I could alter the focus totally manually with the lens ring.  When I stopped turning the ring the focus returned to full screen and I then would take the photo and it would be focused on what I had pre-focused on.  The Fotos app had zero control on where or if I was in focus.

I hope I am interpreting all the above situations correctly.  The Q3 works exactly as I would expect a manual focus lens to work but only allowing control of the shutter and not the focus since the manual focus on the Q3 lens is totally mechanical.

I might have to borrow back my Q2 from my friend and give it a try.

Edited May 21, 2024 by Aram Langhans

[Phil1066]

Update as of last week. I went into the Leica store in Porto, Portugal to check on this with a store member. 
 

He said that someone else had recently reported it as well. So I thought I’d take him through the process just to make sure I wasn’t being a numpty.

Since documenting the process originally I now note that something had changed. This time when I tried to manually focus ‘on the lens’ it had no affect at all. The ‘only’ control was in the fotos app, by tapping on the screen.

Im unsure as to why they would make this change rather than actually fix the issue, unless they were decomplicating the process so that users cannot focus on the lens at all thereby removing the perceived issue originally reported?

im guessing they would have fixed it by now if they could???