aspherical Posted October 2, 2023 Share #1 Posted October 2, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got these with my Nikon as well. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/382583-why-do-i-get-bands-in-the-sky-attaching-photo/?do=findComment&comment=4868441'>More sharing options...
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Ken Abrahams Posted October 2, 2023 Share #2 Posted October 2, 2023 Aspherical, are the cameras creating this banding set to produce JPG's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspherical Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) I thought I was shooting DNG. Maybe not. I just checked: I shot it DNG. Edited October 2, 2023 by aspherical 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedd Posted October 2, 2023 Share #4 Posted October 2, 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedd Posted October 2, 2023 Share #5 Posted October 2, 2023 Do the DNG's look like this or just your jpeg output? You may have the output quality set too low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDoc Posted October 2, 2023 Share #6 Posted October 2, 2023 Most of all the final compression via post processing - by using higher resolution you should get rid of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted October 2, 2023 Share #7 Posted October 2, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you have set photoshop to handle files as tiff files when opened you shouldn't get any banding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 2, 2023 Share #8 Posted October 2, 2023 No one can say where those bands come from. You didn't give us any hints as to how you made this small JPG file from your DNG file. At a guess I would think that you are seeing a low resolution low quality preview image in your DNG file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 2, 2023 Share #9 Posted October 2, 2023 This is definitely a postprocessing error. It looks like an image processed in Photoshop after opening in ACR in 8 bits.The effect is called posterization (*). The remedy is to use 16 bits in postprocessing (and AdobeRGB colour space). You should set 16-bit Adobe RGB as default in ACR by clicking on the blue link under the image. Only convert (if needed for output) to 8 bit colour depth at the very end. Most other postprocessing programs like Lightroom handle this automatically. In that case there are postprocessing errors like overuse of clarity, dehaze, or too much compression. (**) It can be fixed, but that takes some work (***) (*) https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/posterization.htm (**) https://expertphotography.com/color-banding/ (***) https://photographylife.com/what-is-color-banding-and-how-to-fix-it Basically the problem is that the image file contains too few colour levels to produce a smooth gradient. 8 bits is borderline as there are only 256 levels in each colour. As soon as you start editing you will introduce banding in smooth gradients like a blue sky. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 2, 2023 Share #10 Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, jaapv said: 8 bits is borderline Not really. I often use JPEG when the demands on image quality are not very high, and I never ever get any posterization. I agree, however, that 8 bits are not enough for heavy post processing, but in those cases the image has most likely been poorly exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 2, 2023 Share #11 Posted October 2, 2023 Yes, but you would not process a JPG extensively The OP asked about DNGs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspherical Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted October 2, 2023 Thank you all for these responses. I now have something to work with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 2, 2023 Share #13 Posted October 2, 2023 When doing so note that some monitors, especially non-calibrated ones, can show banding that won’t be present in the final file. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collier Posted October 3, 2023 Share #14 Posted October 3, 2023 I have found everything that jaapv said to be true, even with Black & White and scanning from negs. In 35mm B&W images, the grain will often create enough interference to prevent banding (or stepping) created by gradual changes in value which are not supported by the available system levels in 8 bit. In 4x5 scanning, classic winter skies often have banding with less than 16bit files. It's more about bit depth than resolution. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted October 7, 2023 Share #15 Posted October 7, 2023 I agree with Tedd. I suspect this is an export issue...make sure the jpeg quality setting is at least 60-80. See if you still get it when you export to a tiff, or to a 100 quality jpeg. Also, to eliminate variables, don't use any presets or unusual profiles. Just stick to Adobe Standard or Abobe Color (if you are using Adobe). If you are using a third party editor, it could be that as well, if it is not well made enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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