Bargain Buy Q2's

[marcus01432]

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Q2's are really a flood to the eBay website. There are bargains to be had because of the deluge for a fantastic camera for people on a limited budget. The Q2 was universally recommended in articles and as a street and travel camera. Now, it is actually affordable. There were 8 new offers and no less than 4 new offers a day this week. So let friends and family know they can find some bargains.  

I follow the sold prices on eBay to really know that I am paying a fair price. Maye the same would think the same is true on Amazon. Don't use Etsy. Etsy doesn't back cons and bad products with a guarantee sale. Here is the sold list from today. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Leica+q2+sold+price&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

Happy hunting.

 

 

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[jaapv]

Quite a few smelly offers there. Bargepoles come to mind. Buyer beware!

[Le Chef]

As the old saying goes “Buy the seller”

You’re better off checking with an AD and getting a Q2 in good condition and maybe a warranty. My AD has two pristine Q2’s sitting in a display cabinet looking for new homes.

[darylgo]

The QE is rumored for release, I am waiting to see what that model brings, in the interim I have my original Q that continues to have a few advantages over the newer models.  

1 hour ago, Le Chef said:

As the old saying goes “Buy the seller”

That goes double on ebay. 

[Le Chef]

For the next 12 months there will be more than enough Q2s coming to the used market. No point introducing a Q-E until Leica have settled into a production level that satisfies demand for the Q3 and the market has absorbed all the Q2s that have been turned in without depressing used prices. If you saturate the market everything gets dragged down. In addition I would expect that Leica would a) launch the SL3 before a Q-E and b) launch the Q3M before the Q-E. 

You maybe waiting for a couple of years before the de-contented Q-E turns up...

[darylgo]

27 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

 

For the next 12 months there will be more than enough Q2s coming to the used market. No point introducing a Q-E until Leica have settled into a production level that satisfies demand for the Q3 and the market has absorbed all the Q2s that have been turned in without depressing used prices. If you saturate the market everything gets dragged down. In addition I would expect that Leica would a) launch the SL3 before a Q-E and b) launch the Q3M before the Q-E. 

You maybe waiting for a couple of years before the de-contented Q-E turns up...

I remember your insistence that introduction of the Q3 at a much later date, your reasoning was logical.  

[Le Chef]

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4 hours ago, darylgo said:

I remember your insistence that introduction of the Q3 at a much later date, your reasoning was logical.  

My suggestion was logical, but since I didn’t have knowledge of Leica’s product plan my suggestion was only built on 40 years of business experience.

If you look at the Q situation, Leica cannot build enough Q3’s to meet demand. They likely don’t have spare production capacity, and if they did it would sensibly go to the higher margin Q3 rather than a lower margin Q-E. So as stated before with higher margin products like the SL3 and Q3M to be launched I can’t see the logic of using up production capacity on a lower margin product. Particularly when there are a number of used Q2’s that need homes and Leica should not allow those to clog the market and dilute resale values.

[darylgo]

11 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

My suggestion was logical, but since I didn’t have knowledge of Leica’s product plan my suggestion was only built on 40 years of business experience.

If you look at the Q situation, Leica cannot build enough Q3’s to meet demand. They likely don’t have spare production capacity, and if they did it would sensibly go to the higher margin Q3 rather than a lower margin Q-E. So as stated before with higher margin products like the SL3 and Q3M to be launched I can’t see the logic of using up production capacity on a lower margin product. Particularly when there are a number of used Q2’s that need homes and Leica should not allow those to clog the market and dilute resale values.

The Q-E would be the low cost alternative.  Leica has a history of making less expensive alternatives, the M2, M-E, S-E, R-4s. We're seeing lower cost lenses being introduced with L mounts and the now discontinued Summarit line for the M also.  

[Le Chef]

No one disputes that the Q-E would be the low cost alternative. But if Leica want to make more money they would want to try and sell more Q3’s and satisfy current demand, before selling a low cost Q-E. All the items you state as precedent are true: but they were all introduced after higher margin versions had been on sale for some time.

Edited July 24, 2023 by Le Chef

[marcus01432]

On 7/23/2023 at 7:30 PM, jaapv said:

Quite a few smelly offers there. Bargepoles come to mind. Buyer beware!

One of the Leica maxims to sell us the camera drug we all like is that Leica cameras hold value. Really????  Use eBay sold prices for market research tool. Many of the sellers are respected professionals and camera shops.

Also, with eBay there is buyer protection. You have a monetary guarantee you are not wasting your money.

Does the seller in Kazakhstan bother you? Actually a great country to visit. A friend goes there monthly to oversee hospital construction. He does like it there. One Kazachi person I looked at on eBay has sold a number of Leica items at less than the average sale price with a good seller rating. Buying from other countries, you can get killed on the customs tax though.

 BTW, I  bought my Q2 from the Leica shop in Jakarta, Indonesia.

Finally, the "for sale" flood of Q's and Q2's continues on eBay.

Edited July 25, 2023 by marcus01432

[jaapv]

Well, we all know that eBay is the safest place on earth to buy…🥹

As for the camera from Kazachstan, the price is too low to be kosher. Nothing to do with the country. 

[Guest]

Caveat emptor. I never use fleabay, nor praypal.

[darylgo]

There’s some excellent sellers on eBay, it’s not a 100% negative experience. Still, what isn’t said in the listing is often times the issue.  It’s not my preferred camera equipment source and I’ve had issues with equipment from reputable dealers.  The backup plan for me is not eBay’s guarantee but rather DAG.  

Edited July 26, 2023 by darylgo

[colonel]

I buy on ebay, but always have a chat with the seller first to determine if legit. I also like to see if the seller has sold camera equipment before. My checklist is:

1. Ask the buyer a question and see if you get a reasonable reply

2. Ask the buyer why they are selling

3. I only buy if feedback >20 and they have sold something withing the last 6 months

4. Look at previous sales to see if they have sold the same type of items (e.g. camera equipment)

5. Make sure the pictures are detailed enough

6. eBay guarantee is good, and I have used it before, but every process is a mega hassle

7. If you can meet in a secure location for cash can also help with expensive buys

8. If the product is within the Leica guarantee period, if the seller will tell you the serial number, a quick email to Leica can confirm the guarantee length and simultaneously if the serial number is legit

In summary, using eBay carefully can be good, but in line with a comment about, if it looks too good it means it probably is .... also remember that Kosher meat is around 30% more then non-kosher due to the extra checking processes it has to go through

Edited August 1, 2023 by colonel

[brickftl]

On 7/23/2023 at 7:09 AM, marcus01432 said:

Q2's are really a flood to the eBay website. There are bargains to be had because of the deluge for a fantastic camera for people on a limited budget. The Q2 was universally recommended in articles and as a street and travel camera. Now, it is actually affordable. There were 8 new offers and no less than 4 new offers a day this week. So let friends and family know they can find some bargains.  

I follow the sold prices on eBay to really know that I am paying a fair price. Maye the same would think the same is true on Amazon. Don't use Etsy. Etsy doesn't back cons and bad products with a guarantee sale. Here is the sold list from today. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Leica+q2+sold+price&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

Happy hunting.

 

 

personally I wouldn't buy from eBay. Much better to buy from Fred Miranda. I've bought and sold cams and lenses over the years on FM, always had excellent experiences.