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Transfer from camera to drive was never a feature that’s been announced on any Leica camera. Mass Storage mode is used for connecting the camera to a computer, tablet or phone that supports exter

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I just tried connecting the drive mentioned above (SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD) directly to the Q3, and there was no response at all from the camera to indicate that mass storage was attached. I have

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AFAIK, no camera can transfer data directly to a backup SSD.

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Just get a USB-C dongle for your USB-C capable phone/tablet and plug in your ssd and camera or card and copy the files from the card to the ssd. Many people (me included) will be very happy that Apple finally moves the iPhone to USB-C for rhis very reason. No need to take the iPad on holiday anymore

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I agree regarding Apple's resistance to fully implementing USB-C for iPhones.  (I wonder what the next iPhone will have).They work around this (EU requirement?) with my MacBook Air too by supplying a charger cable USBC to MagSafe 3 , although it also has USB-C. The multiplicity of standards for what USB-C  and USB 3.0 cables will support which functionality is frustrating too. Don't even get me started on trying to get PC and Mac mini talk to each other on same LAN!

Shall try the dongle interface from iPad next, thanks

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20 minutes ago, TDE-Photo said:

you can use a hard disk with a card reader like the WD My passport. You take the card out of the Q3 and put it in the card reader, press a button, done

Also the LaCie DJI Pilot is a similar system with card reader built in + USB-C/Lightning/etc connections.

 

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I have just received a Belkin Connect USB-C to 4 Port USB-C Hub.
I connected a USB-C Power Adapter to 100W PD/USB-C port (1) and Q3 and Samsung T7 SSD to (2) an (3) and the fixed cable to iPad Mini.
It works to copy and paste selected images to the SSD. That gives me the original DNG or JPEG still on the SD Card and a duplicate on the SSD.
That was my aim as a method of backing up during travel.  Very likely it would be simpler connected to a Macbook or computer instead of the iPad. However, my plan is to travel with the iPad (and phone) only.

This is independent of using the Fotos App. That's useful to me for the geotagging but at around 80MB or so each for the original uncompressed DNGs my iPhone/iPad are limited in storage space in comparison to the 1TB SSD of course.

My normal method is to import via SD Card reader with Lightroom on my PC. Battery charging via the normal charger (shared with SL2). The older and new batteries are working interchanged on both cameras. USB-C charging does seem to work too. I don't have the charging pad to try to charge via the Wireless handgrip.

For me, simpler just to use my existing methods for importing images and charging the batteries when home, as with the SL2 etc.


 

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On 7/16/2023 at 6:46 PM, beewee said:

Transfer from camera to drive was never a feature that’s been announced on any Leica camera.

Mass Storage mode is used for connecting the camera to a computer, tablet or phone that supports external storage. In doing so, when the camera is connected to the computer/tablet/phone, it shows up as an external drive on the computer/tablet/phone. Selecting other USB modes on the Q3 will not allow you to mount it as an external storage device on your computer/tablet/phone.

Apple MFi mode is only needed for iPads and iPhones with lightning connector. Newer iPads that have USB-C does not need the Apple MFi setting.

PTP mode is only used for tethered shooting with software that support tethered program using Picture Transfer Protocol.

There are very few cameras that support direct data transfer from camera to an external drive and even those that support this normally do not support allowing you to transfer data from the storage medium in your camera to an external drive via USB-C. For example, the Panasonic S5II does not support writing to an external drive, only the S5II X model which is geared towards people that want to shoot high bit-rate video codecs support writing to an external drive during shooting. Even then, it only supports writing to external SSDs during recording/shooting and not transfer of images and video to the SSD from the internal SD card after they have been recorded on the SD card. 

I have tried to do tethering with my new Q3 through Lightroom, I have used a Tether PRO UsbC-UsbC cable connected to MacBook Pro and I have not succeeded... Is it possible to do tethering with the Q3 and Lightroom?
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On 8/13/2023 at 10:46 PM, jaapv said:

https://whywelikethis.com/best-portable-ssd-drives-with-sd-card-reader/#gsc.tab=0

Isn't this a viable workaround?

 

If you want to copy directly from the Camera USB-C port, the additional requirement is that you need to be able to interconnect (with a hub) the Q3 USB-C port, and the SSD to copy/move from the camera to SSD. You need an additional device to do the actual copying (an iPad in my case). An SSD connected directly to the camera does nothing. The link is also potentially confusing in that you need a Card Reader as well as the SSDs mentioned. The Card reader is a separate device. That works for copying from SD card (not in the camera) to a laptop/computer, of course. That's the common method.
 

Maybe I'm in the minority trying to do this when travelling internationally without a laptop.
Everything can work using the right dedicated power supply too. That is camera charged and files read from, copied/moved via the Q3 USB-C port using the right hub and an iPad.


 

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29 minutes ago, hoppyman said:

If you want to copy directly from the Camera USB-C port, the additional requirement is that you need to be able to interconnect (with a hub) the Q3 USB-C port, and the SSD to copy/move from the camera to SSD. You need an additional device to do the actual copying (an iPad in my case). An SSD connected directly to the camera does nothing. The link is also potentially confusing in that you need a Card Reader as well as the SSDs mentioned. The Card reader is a separate device. That works for copying from SD card (not in the camera) to a laptop/computer, of course. That's the common method.
 

Maybe I'm in the minority trying to do this when travelling internationally without a laptop.
Everything can work using the right dedicated power supply too. That is camera charged and files read from, copied/moved via the Q3 USB-C port using the right hub and an iPad.


 

Indeed this is exactly the system I used with a Fuji camera and will use with the Q3 when I have my copy. The hub is the key. Then a reader. USB-Cables, iPad Pro. It works like a charm.

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3 hours ago, hoppyman said:

If you want to copy directly from the Camera USB-C port, the additional requirement is that you need to be able to interconnect (with a hub) the Q3 USB-C port, and the SSD to copy/move from the camera to SSD. You need an additional device to do the actual copying (an iPad in my case). An SSD connected directly to the camera does nothing. The link is also potentially confusing in that you need a Card Reader as well as the SSDs mentioned. The Card reader is a separate device. That works for copying from SD card (not in the camera) to a laptop/computer, of course. That's the common method.
 

Maybe I'm in the minority trying to do this when travelling internationally without a laptop.
Everything can work using the right dedicated power supply too. That is camera charged and files read from, copied/moved via the Q3 USB-C port using the right hub and an iPad.


 

Western Digital Passport has a built in SD slot but is a HDD. 

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On 7/17/2023 at 11:12 AM, hoppyman said:

well that's discouraging.  Thanks for testing. I don't have my Q3 as yet to try this.
My hope is to be backing up the images while travelling so as to have copies on the SD Cards as well as the SSD.
My next option may be to look at copying to iPad and then from that to the SSD. if that was possible.
I need my camera to arrive!

My iPad is my back-up device while travelling ..... I deliberately bought a 1Tb iPad Pro with this in mind. I load the images at the first available opportunity with a card reader .... even with 100mb files the iPad imports them far quicker than to a laptop. 

I import only the decent images from the Camera Roll into LR and process them on the road ...... they are then synced with the cloud and my home iMac as an additional layer of security. Even if everything goes up in smoke I've got the best saved somewhere. I also tend to use low capacity SD's so I don't have a whole trips worth of images just on one card.

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On 7/17/2023 at 2:46 AM, beewee said:

Transfer from camera to drive was never a feature that’s been announced on any Leica camera.

Mass Storage mode is used for connecting the camera to a computer, tablet or phone that supports external storage. In doing so, when the camera is connected to the computer/tablet/phone, it shows up as an external drive on the computer/tablet/phone. Selecting other USB modes on the Q3 will not allow you to mount it as an external storage device on your computer/tablet/phone.

Apple MFi mode is only needed for iPads and iPhones with lightning connector. Newer iPads that have USB-C does not need the Apple MFi setting.

PTP mode is only used for tethered shooting with software that support tethered program using Picture Transfer Protocol.

There are very few cameras that support direct data transfer from camera to an external drive and even those that support this normally do not support allowing you to transfer data from the storage medium in your camera to an external drive via USB-C. For example, the Panasonic S5II does not support writing to an external drive, only the S5II X model which is geared towards people that want to shoot high bit-rate video codecs support writing to an external drive during shooting. Even then, it only supports writing to external SSDs during recording/shooting and not transfer of images and video to the SSD from the internal SD card after they have been recorded on the SD card.

I think that is why it's possible for me to see camera, SSD and iPad together to make this work for me. And thank you again for helpful explanations

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Just for fun I have connected a Delock hub which takes two USB-C or A cabled accessories to my iPad Pro. I need for this two USB-C cables in my case.

The Delkin Devices unit is an CF Express B slot with the card from my X-H2S Fujfilm camera. The Sandisk is a 2TB SSD that I use as backup on the road, but equally I could have used a Samsung SSD.

The images show this in imagery. SPB10655 shows the IPad Pro screen clearly with the two devices shown and where the file is to be copied to and from.

Untitled is the Delkin Devices unit with a CF Express B card.

The less professional quick and dirty connections show the USB-C connections and devices.

This does not work using the Magic keyboard USB-C slot, hence the use of a hub to provide more than 1 USB-C slot.

There a newer Delkin device exactly the same as the one shown with a SD card slot additionally to the CF Express B one.

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64 GB card is 15 USD.  For 200 USD you could have new SD every day during two weeks vacation. And even case to store them all. :)

https://www.amazon.ca/Dual-Protect-Color-Organized-Individual-Transparent-Water-Resistant/dp/B0BLSFW2CZ/ref=sr_1_16?hvadid=230004441995&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000887&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2613153201047313715&hvtargid=kwd-298072954223&hydadcr=1528_10290103&keywords=pelican+sd+card+case&qid=1692196740&sr=8-16

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11 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said:

64 GB card is 15 USD.  For 200 USD you could have new SD every day during two weeks vacation. And even case to store them all. :)

https://www.amazon.ca/Dual-Protect-Color-Organized-Individual-Transparent-Water-Resistant/dp/B0BLSFW2CZ/ref=sr_1_16?hvadid=230004441995&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000887&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2613153201047313715&hvtargid=kwd-298072954223&hydadcr=1528_10290103&keywords=pelican+sd+card+case&qid=1692196740&sr=8-16

Very true I did this for two or three years with 16GB cards, works also barring loss of a card or a failed card. (Neither of which happened in my case).

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1 hour ago, idusidusi said:

Very true I did this for two or three years with 16GB cards, works also barring loss of a card or a failed card. (Neither of which happened in my case).

From redundancy POV it is better than all data moved to single SSD (which I have seen failing) and much more redundant than external spinning disk. Those needs to be dropped only ones (rugged case, some light damping will not prevent catastrophic failure), also from personal experience :) .  

 

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Transfer without a computer, there are solutions such as: 

NewQ Filehub AC750 Travel Router, you can use almost all USB memory. 

Search for example on Amazon, etc

I think there are also other, similar products from different manufacturers

Or you transfer via Smartphone, but it a bit a mess...

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