Psrkn Posted June 22, 2023 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) My Q3 body (both at its base and the charger base) felt lukewarm after charging for over 3 hours. Is this normal? This is my first time using a wireless charger. I stopped charging and checked my camera for any abnormal behavior. It's okay. Could anyone who has the charger give me some advice or should I call Leica support? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378649-leica-hg-dc1-wireless-handgrip-leica-drop-xl-wireless-charger/?do=findComment&comment=4799099'>More sharing options...
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nicci78 Posted June 22, 2023 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) It’s normal wireless charging is dumb : - slower charging time. - higher energy consumption. - it generate heats that can reduce battery life in the long run. - Place it slightly wrong, it won’t charge at all. Just think a second that it is the same tech than induction stoves ! How good can it be for your phone or Q3 ? If you care about environment, don’t use such stupid tech. Edited June 22, 2023 by nicci78 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psrkn Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted June 22, 2023 Thanks for the information! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltz Posted June 23, 2023 Share #4 Posted June 23, 2023 It’s seriously just for marketing and I would never use it even if it was free. For all the above things nicci said. I really don’t see why it’s so hard to put a battery in a charger? This is solving problems that don’t exist at its finest. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #5 Posted June 23, 2023 It is traditional on a forum that when someone asks a practical question you get responses from all those who don't know the answer but tell you it's the wrong question. To try to answer the question...... I don't have the Q3 or charger, but I use a similar charger with my iphone - it gets warm as well. Charging any battery creates heat and I am sure this is normal. Out of curiosity, Does the Leica charger use magnets to align the body on the base like the iphone Magsafe charger? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #6 Posted June 23, 2023 The Q3 charging mat is a rebranded Native Union one for almost 4x the price. https://www.nativeunion.com/products/drop-xl-wireless-charger Just read the 1 star reviews it is not very good. Native union answer Quote Native Union 11/25/20 Thanks for your review, Valerie! Wireless charging is sensitive to the alignment of the charging coils (of the charger and the device). The size of the charging coil (~42mm) is actually much smaller than the size of the charging pad, so as with all wireless chargers, careful alignment is very important. Not to worry, this takes a bit of time to get used to, but the overwhelming feedback we've received from our customers is that you will quickly develop a sort of "muscle-memory" for proper placement. We highly recommend you take a look at our Help Desk article about wireless charging for some tips that may work well for you: nativeunion.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041431431 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #7 Posted June 23, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Articles about why wireless charging is a bad idea : https://www.androidauthority.com/tech-news-93-1146680/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-wireless-charging-a-terrible-idea/ https://www.makeuseof.com/why-wireless-charging-sucks/ and so on.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #8 Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) I found that charging a battery in body is really annoying, you cannot use it at the same time, especially with wireless charging (which not contactless by the way) Buy a second battery then rotate them. Charge the empty one in its proper wired charger. Your camera will always be available for taking photos and not resting on a (charging) mat. By the way phones used to be able to do the same with their removable battery. Nowadays it is a pain to use when empty. Hopefully EU will make smartphones great again with compulsory easy user replaceable battery Edited June 23, 2023 by nicci78 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) By the way for less than the cost of ugly, non arca swiss handgrip and charging mat, you can buy 2 extra batteries. The latter is certainly more useful. What went wrong with Leica design team ? Q3 tilting screen is freaking huge and ugly, so is the wireless charging handgrip. M11 hangrip is excellent !! It is sleak and light with easy battery & USB-C charging port access and it is arca swiss compatible. What a dream. Q3 version has none of that. Edited June 23, 2023 by nicci78 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkmc Posted June 23, 2023 Share #10 Posted June 23, 2023 Induction charging - it's not "wireless" because there's a wire to the charger - is brilliant if it's correctly designed. Apple's MagSafe charging system uses magnets to align the charging pad and the device, and the next Qi charging standard will use magnets. When everything is correctly aligned, there is little power loss, and it's very efficient for devices that need slow charges, like charging a phone overnight. It's really not ideal for a camera, because you probably don't use it every day, so you won't be charging overnight often. I don't know how fast it's supposed to be; it charges at up to 10W, and I don't know how to scale that to the camera's battery. It is, otherwise, a clever charging pad: it supports two devices, and has a USB plug to connect a third. It's the same as this: https://www.nativeunion.com/products/drop-xl-wireless-charger So if you do want to use it, don't spend extra for the Leica charger. This said, multi-device Qi chargers are problematic. Apple announced a device called AirPower, and ended up never shipping it, because it's really difficult to get multiple devices to charge safely on this sort of thing. They do ship a two device travel charger, but it has two separate chargers in one device, rather than a single pad where you have to align things. Frankly, Leica's not very good with chargers. Having the Q battery charger plugged into an electrical outlet instead of a USB port doesn't make sense. Sure, there are some people who don't have USB devices handy, but they should ship it with a charging block that has a USB port, which then connects to the battery charger. It's clear that since induction charging isn't built into the camera, and is an aftermarket option, they don't expect it to be widely used. But it's another gimmick they can use to help sell the camera. I'd suspect that there are people who might want to charge that way, but who don't want to use a handgrip on their cameras. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkmc Posted June 23, 2023 Share #11 Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, nicci78 said: I found that charging a battery in body is really annoying, you cannot use it at the same time, especially with wireless charging (which not contactless by the way) Buy a second battery then rotate them. Charge the empty one in its proper wired charger. Your camera will always be available for taking photos and not resting on a (charging) mat. By the way phones used to be able to do the same with their removable battery. Nowadays it is a pain to use when empty. Hopefully EU will make smartphones great again with compulsory easy user replaceable battery Modern phones get all-day battery life, so you don't need two batteries. You can just charge them overnight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #12 Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Once upon a time, phones have 1 or 2 weeks battery life with the possibility to swap the battery easily as fast as counting from 1 to 3. Fast forward for the last decade only big and huge phones has at 24 hours battery life. Such as Max iPhone, otherwise with normal and smaller phones you typically cannot go early to work then go clubbing from dusk till dawn with a single charge. For normal days it is barely okay. So I beg to differ by saying that smartphone absolutely need fast and easy battery swap. Anyway EU will fix that soon. And you'll find it awesome. Edited June 23, 2023 by nicci78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkmc Posted June 23, 2023 Share #13 Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, nicci78 said: Once upon a time, phones have 1 or 2 weeks battery life with the possibility to swap the battery easily as fast as counting from 1 to 3. Fast forward for the last decade only big and huge phones has at 24 hours battery life. Such as Max iPhone, otherwise with normal and smaller phones you typically cannot go early to work then go clubbing from dusk till dawn with a single charge. For normal days it is barely okay. So I beg to differ by saying that smartphone absolutely need fast and easy battery swap. Anyway EU will fix that soon. And you'll find it awesome. Once upon a time... when phones were only phones, and you hardly used them. Obviously that has changed. There's no reason why you can't charge during the day. If you're at work, plug your phone in there. Not complicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #14 Posted June 23, 2023 Not everybody work at a desk ! No desk during holidays for easy charging. Let’s go back to Q3. Do you see yourself sitting duck during vacation with Q3 charging slowly on its mat ? Anyway you’ll need a secondary battery at least, and you’ll end up charging it with its proper charger. Wireless charging is just a novelty. It is dumb. I never use it with my iPhone. What’s the point ? Plugging it at the bottom or magnetically attaching on the back a big puck ? What’s the best or the worst ? Here is the trade of wireless charging for Q3 : - big and ugly handgrip without Arca-Swiss nor battery pass through. - expensive handgrip and charging mat. - 3h to charge the battery doesn’t scream fast. - warming the whole Q3 during charging. Really the best handgrip so far is M11 one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted June 23, 2023 Share #15 Posted June 23, 2023 3 hours ago, nicci78 said: Once upon a time, phones have 1 or 2 weeks battery life with the possibility to swap the battery easily as fast as counting from 1 to 3. Once upon a time phones weren’t smart, and somehow best in what they should do: phone. with people it is the other way around: once upon a time they were smart, now they have a phone… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted June 23, 2023 Share #16 Posted June 23, 2023 10 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Does the Leica charger use magnets to align the body on the base like the iphone Magsafe charger? No, there are no magnets based on tear down photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aha63 Posted June 23, 2023 Share #17 Posted June 23, 2023 Hmmm I have an open order for the Q3 grip because I have an open order for the Q3.... Did so because it felt so much better in my hands putting it on a demo Q3 in the shop. But I do not give a shit about wireless charging. Wished all standarized on usb C charging... oh the Q3 allready got that! Well maybe I should cancel the grip order (be carefull not to cancel the Q3 order now) and look for some cheaper / more practical ergometric solution. This thread got me think about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 26, 2023 Share #18 Posted June 26, 2023 They are talking about the Q3 hangrip at around 27 min and about the Q3 handgrip on Q3 at 1h33 Josh prefers to use Q2 handgrip, which is compatible with Q3 because it is smaller and offer better ergonomics due to deeper grip on the old one. No Arca-swiss compatibility Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 27, 2023 Share #19 Posted June 27, 2023 Leica Q3 Wireless Charging! #Q3 #leica #leicacamera #wireless" width="200"> this video just killed the whole concept. Very hard to align properly the Q3 on the charging pad. Way easier to just plug a USB-C cable 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted June 27, 2023 Share #20 Posted June 27, 2023 vor 52 Minuten schrieb nicci78: this video just killed the whole concept. Very hard to align properly the Q3 on the charging pad. Way easier to just plug a USB-C cable thank you for posting - indeed not as aspected Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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