LBJ2 Posted June 16, 2023 Share #41 Posted June 16, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said: This is absolutely Leica's MO...release a cosmetically different version or special edition at the end of life of a given camera. It kind of sucks, as it would have been nice to have the option over the last four years, but they are not in it for us, they are in it for them. The best news about this from my front is that it is a clear sign that the SL3 is likely at most a year away. That said, I agree with pgh, it is going to have to be a lot better (not just in specs, but actual image character, color etc), otherwise I will be sticking with the SL2 for a while. Of all the Leica cameras I have had, the SL2 has treated me the best (meaning superb results and 0 failures in any way to the camera or any of the lenses throughout the entire time I have had the camera (since 2019 or so). No other Leica has done that for me... Mind if I cut and paste some of your comments here and I use it in my own forum comments 😎 Admittedly, I am itching to try my few Leica SL APO primes on the M11 sensor at some point (e.g. SL3). These APOs deserve as much resolution as the industry can throw at 'em! But I am in no hurry to replace my SL2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LBJ2 Posted June 16, 2023 Share #42 Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 9:53 AM, jto555 said: I can never understand why companies make a big thing about the colour of a camera. The colour of a camera will not improve the taken image. Nobody has ever looked at a photograph and said "That would have been a much better image if it had been taken with a blue/black/white... camera". As for Leica: Build quality - Nailed it Images quality - Nailed it Customer service - Nailed it Price - Err, not so much. To miss-quote somebody else, it is reassuringly expensive . You wrote, "I can never understand why companies make a big thing about the colour of a camera." Because it's Gorgeous. Leica knows it, I know it, and you probably know it too 😉. As the song goes.."she's so fine there's no telling where the money went" 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted June 16, 2023 Share #43 Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 9:53 AM, jto555 said: I can never understand why companies make a big thing about the colour of a camera. The colour of a camera will not improve the taken image. Nobody has ever looked at a photograph and said "That would have been a much better image if it had been taken with a blue/black/white... camera". As for Leica: Build quality - Nailed it Images quality - Nailed it Customer service - Nailed it Price - Err, not so much. To miss-quote somebody else, it is reassuringly expensive . Lol. Road & Track did a story on the new Porsche 911S back in early 1970’s. The headline has been with me ever since. “Muscle car performance, without the stigma of low cost.” 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted June 16, 2023 Share #44 Posted June 16, 2023 14 hours ago, Sohail said: I don't entirely agree. Obviously, it's shrewd cynical marketing by Leica. But that aside, taking pictures is not simply a mechanical matter. It's very much an emotional undertaking too. So it makes sense that you want your tools to be part of that emotional experience. Anybody who thinks that an Aston Martin DB5 is just a box with wheels to get you from A to B is either a Spock-like being or not being entirely straight with you. BTW, I won't be getting a silver SL2 cool though it is. I know what you are saying but in F1 or NASCAR does the best looking car always win? For me I don't care how a camera looks as long as I can depend on it to deliver the results every time. I will say that the SL2 is a stunning camera. No need to gild the lily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted June 16, 2023 Share #45 Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 4:17 PM, JohnathanLovm said: And yet Fuji cameras and Nikon ZFc selling like hot cake. Are they? I believe Fuji is but Nikon... Not so much On 6/15/2023 at 4:17 PM, JohnathanLovm said: And yet Fuji cameras and Nikon ZFc selling like hot cake. Are they? The Fuji is but Nikon... Not so much I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted June 17, 2023 Share #46 Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, jto555 said: I know what you are saying but in F1 or NASCAR does the best looking car always win? For me I don't care how a camera looks as long as I can depend on it to deliver the results every time. I will say that the SL2 is a stunning camera. No need to gild the lily. It's not about "winning". This is a work of art in silver, and I'm not sure it would look that great in black, pink, or purple Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 17, 2023 by Sohail 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378328-new-classic-leica-sl2-now-in-silver/?do=findComment&comment=4795495'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 17, 2023 Share #47 Posted June 17, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/15/2023 at 10:53 PM, jto555 said: I can never understand why companies make a big thing about the colour of a camera. The colour of a camera will not improve the taken image. Nobody has ever looked at a photograph and said "That would have been a much better image if it had been taken with a blue/black/white... camera". so now we know what you don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZN Posted June 17, 2023 Share #48 Posted June 17, 2023 Meanwhile… I’m hoping the SL3 will also be available as a silver colour option. Just like Leica used to do during the film era… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 17, 2023 Share #49 Posted June 17, 2023 12 hours ago, jto555 said: I know what you are saying but in F1 or NASCAR does the best looking car always win? For me I don't care how a camera looks as long as I can depend on it to deliver the results every time. I will say that the SL2 is a stunning camera. No need to gild the lily. We are all visual artists. Many of us care about the look of our tools. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted June 19, 2023 Share #50 Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 4:58 AM, Sohail said: It's not about "winning". This is a work of art in silver, and I'm not sure it would look that great in black, pink, or purple Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Oh yes, that is a work of art. We can certainly agree on that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted June 19, 2023 Share #51 Posted June 19, 2023 Coming with special editions is a sign that sth new is coming. I hope it will be soon, as I am doubting how too proceed with the sl. I don’t care about editions, functionality is key, especially with a sl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted June 23, 2023 Share #52 Posted June 23, 2023 Just saw the silver SL2 at Leica Store. It's a very sexy-looking camera! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted June 23, 2023 Share #53 Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Sohail said: Just saw the silver SL2 at Leica Store. It's a very sexy-looking camera! Thanks for the report Sohail. I'm in the States and I've had my silver SL2 pre-ordered since early on the first day available (June 15th) at B&H. Since B&H has the lower tiered status of just an "authorized dealer" I'm prepared to wait while the Leica Boutiques and Stores get their preferred allotment of the 1000 units first. There's a silver SL2 for sale right now on the Fred Miranda Buy & Sell for a few hundred $ over list price but I resisted 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted June 23, 2023 Share #54 Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, goodbokeh said: Thanks for the report Sohail. I'm in the States and I've had my silver SL2 pre-ordered since early on the first day available (June 15th) at B&H. Since B&H has the lower tiered status of just an "authorized dealer" I'm prepared to wait while the Leica Boutiques and Stores get their preferred allotment of the 1000 units first. There's a silver SL2 for sale right now on the Fred Miranda Buy & Sell for a few hundred $ over list price but I resisted 😉 I tend not to buy from extended stores or non Leica Sales because here in Australia these stores order through Leica Wholesale. Leica Wholesale invariably do not have the same level of stock as Leica Stores proper. It was quite frustrating when I ordered an SL2 Kit last April from my preferred Camera shop in my city. I was going to wait months, I had already with 4 weeks and nothing, while Leica Sydney and Melbourne were showing that they had stock available. So the two entities Leica Wholesale are different and it would seem that Leica prefer that you buy from their stores directly or have considerable waiting periods. It was my preference to buy from my City store because invariable they could offer a free battery of discount as a long time customer as well as direct assistance if the warranty requires actioning. I am afraid that special kind of loyalty and local relationship with vendors is not possible now because it's easy for me to purchase online and the lens or camera is at my door two days after payment. I hope it is different with the Silver Leica and B&H come through. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted June 23, 2023 Share #55 Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ken Abrahams said: I tend not to buy from extended stores or non Leica Sales because here in Australia these stores order through Leica Wholesale. Leica Wholesale invariably do not have the same level of stock as Leica Stores proper. It was quite frustrating when I ordered an SL2 Kit last April from my preferred Camera shop in my city. I was going to wait months, I had already with 4 weeks and nothing, while Leica Sydney and Melbourne were showing that they had stock available. So the two entities Leica Wholesale are different and it would seem that Leica prefer that you buy from their stores directly or have considerable waiting periods. It was my preference to buy from my City store because invariable they could offer a free battery of discount as a long time customer as well as direct assistance if the warranty requires actioning. I am afraid that special kind of loyalty and local relationship with vendors is not possible now because it's easy for me to purchase online and the lens or camera is at my door two days after payment. I hope it is different with the Silver Leica and B&H come through. Well we will see on the wait Ken. I've been a B&H customer for decades and they've always treated me right. Also, B&H having a 30 day return policy and paying my local 9.5% sales tax through their PayBoo credit card is a consideration for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted June 23, 2023 Share #56 Posted June 23, 2023 I guess there's more than just me interested in a silver SL2. The one put up for sale today on Fred Miranda had a couple hundred views and has already sold for a premium! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickness Posted June 29, 2023 Share #57 Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 12:03 PM, TL3 said: I like it, it gives off Leicaflex / R vibes. But tough sell when we expect an SL3 in the short to medium term. Also feels a bit odd pairing with a Noctilux bundle. I think they're just trying to get rid of those Nocti 1.2 lenses because they are as niche as niche gets and they've probably got a bunch lying around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 1, 2023 Share #58 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 11:58 PM, Sohail said: It's not about "winning". This is a work of art in silver, and I'm not sure it would look that great in black, pink, or purple Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Some find black and purple quite appealing… https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-17E9C8/1965-aston-martin-db5 https://www.dylan-miles.com/vehicles/1965-aston-martin-db5-ex-lady-brown/ Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted July 1, 2023 Share #59 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jeff S said: Some find black and purple quite appealing… https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-17E9C8/1965-aston-martin-db5 https://www.dylan-miles.com/vehicles/1965-aston-martin-db5-ex-lady-brown/ Jeff Beautiful, but I think silver is in a different league Edited July 1, 2023 by Sohail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted July 1, 2023 Share #60 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 2:06 PM, BernardC said: That's a bit harsh, Leica isn't forcing anyone to buy their cameras. Run-out special editions have advantages for Leica and for customers. For Leica they keep sales prices up near the end of the product's lifecycle. Most brands discount heavily to get rid of the last few units. For customers they provide a well--proven and yet unique camera that is likely to have higher resale value down the line. It's really a win-win. This, exactly. I bought the M10R BP after I could have bought the M11. Compare the used prices. Not sure if it has or will hold as well with the SL system, but it is interesting, I agree, that these editions are usually a win-win. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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