Will the Q3 bring them back?

[CalStanford]

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11 hours ago, Aram Langhans said:

I was almost thinking of a Sony RX1 with the 35mm but then realized, even though I shoot a lot of 35-50 images, the added versatility of the 28 would be a real plus and not a negative.  I did wait until the Q2 came out for the extra pixels to be able to crop and still have a detailed image to do what I want to do and print fairly large.  And of course, the complex menu system of the Sony was not something I wanted to navigate after working with one for a bit.  Leica's are so simple yet do everything I want to do.  While I have a Q3 on order, I sometimes think, when I shoot with the Q2 that it is just fine for me.  Tilt sensor might be nice since at 73 the ground is a bit further away from me that it use to be, and I do a lot of dim/low light shooting and the Q2 does get a bit challenged about 1600 and my hour with the Q3 showed it was much better, and the Q2 autofocus is also a challenge at times, so who knows.  I am told I am still 4 months out, so lots to think about.

The 35mm equivalent crop of a Q3 is 

7616 x 5072 px

38.6 MP

 

at an equivalent f2.1 for Bokeh (f1.7 for light).

 

The RX1-RII is a 42.4MP 35mm f2 camera. The Q3 cropped is basically the same as an RX1R-II natively, but with the added 'bonus' of going wider to 28mm and 60MP if one wants to.

[Aram Langhans]

16 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I use the crop feature not for cropping, but to constrain the area within which multi-point AF and autoexposure operate. For street photography I can set a small crop and know that AF will only pick something to focus on within that central area, not some irrelevant feature at the edge. Similarly, if the scene I want to capture is shaded but there is a bright area of sky in one corner of the 28mm scene, setting a small crop means that auto exposure will be set for the central shaded part and will ignore the sky.

I actually find the Q system crop feature quite handy for these purposes. In the Q2 it would be even more useful if body/face/eye AF actually worked so one could more easily select which bodies in a scene to focus on, but sadly even with the smallest crop the Q2 still can't recognise a human being. The Q3 should be better in this regard.

First time I have heard of these two "features" of the crop guides.  Thanks.  I think you have changed my mind about using them.  LocalHero 1953 stamping out ignorance one member at a time.  😃

[McMx72]

vor 23 Stunden schrieb CalStanford:

The 35mm equivalent crop of a Q3 is 

7616 x 5072 px

38.6 MP

 

at an equivalent f2.1 for Bokeh (f1.7 for light).

 

I have tried to calculate the bokeh/depth of field in crop mode a few times with DoF calculators, but fail miserably every time, I must be doing something wrong.

For example, according to this caluclator (https://www.photopills.com/calculators/dof )  f2.0 (not 2.1, but this should be negligible), 35mm *native lens*, full frame sensor, 3m focusing distance, gives me 

DoF near limit: 2,62m

DoF far limit: 3.51m

DoF: 0.89m

 

The Q3, with its 28mm lens (whether in any of the crop modes or not), at 3m at 1.7, will give me

DoF near limit: 2,52m

DoF far limit: 3.71m

DoF: 1.19m

This would correspond more to a native 35mm lens at 2.8 DoF, no?

It becomes more extreme at 50mm crop mode,  where, according to my questionable calculations, a Q3 would have the depth of field of a 50mm native lens at f5.0, which does not seem to be the consensus.

Edited July 11, 2023 by McMx72

[Trev]

Yes. I’m back. Handled a friends Q3. Lust set in. Settled (so far) for a very reasonably priced Q2. Very happy. Previously owned the Q-P 

[FusionX.Photo]

20 minutes ago, Trev said:

Yes. I’m back. Handled a friends Q3. Lust set in. Settled (so far) for a very reasonably priced Q2. Very happy. Previously owned the Q-P 

Sorry about that, I knew I shouldn’t have let you touch it.

[Trev]

30 minutes ago, FusionX.Photo said:

Sorry about that, I knew I shouldn’t have let you touch it.

Yes. I put all the blame on you…

[1945 Mouton]

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I sold my Q2 and Ricoh GRiiix and bought the Q3.  The freezing was a bit of an annoyance, but it hasn't frozen since the firmware update 1.20.  The AF is vastly better than the Q2.  The picture quality is unbelievable.  For reference, I also have the Sony A1 and A7V.   No regrets whatsoever buying the Q3.

[McMx72]

Am 12.8.2023 um 18:32 schrieb 1945 Mouton:

I sold my Q2 and Ricoh GRiiix and bought the Q3.  The freezing was a bit of an annoyance, but it hasn't frozen since the firmware update 1.20.  The AF is vastly better than the Q2.  The picture quality is unbelievable.  For reference, I also have the Sony A1 and A7V.   No regrets whatsoever buying the Q3.

If I may ask - have you used the GRIIIx alongside your Q2, or for different occasions? How would you compare the GRIIIx vs the Q2 in 35/50 crop mode?